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On February 7, 2021, a priest was filmed on video having a mystical experience during Mass. After Mass he went straight to the pulpit to announce that from that moment on, Holy Communion at that parish would only be given on the tongue and kneeling.
The video, which has gone viral with nearly two million views, captured Fr. Fredy Fr. Fredy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes, pastor of Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Bogotá Colombia, bowing down (practically doubled over), shaking, and crying. He was bowed down for about 20 seconds, which is a long time during Mass while everyone is waiting.https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/after-mystical-experience-priest-announces-communion-only-on-the-tongue-and-kneeling
Fr Fredy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes A priest who goes by the name Miles Mariae, “the soldier of Mary,” has produced an English voiceover version of the video and given John-Henry Westen of LifeSiteNews permission to use it. So here is the link to the video with thanks to Father Miles Mariae.
Well-known theologian and liturgical expert Dr. Peter Kwasniewski told Westen there's a problem with a priest at a Novus Ordo parish refusing Holy Communion to those who wish to receive on the hand in a diocese where that is permitted.
“Almost any canon lawyer (and certainly any bishop) would say no, he cannot refuse, because the Church’s discipline (however flawed it may be) expressly allows for this.”
I asked Dr. Kwasniewski what would happen in the case where a priest is so convinced of the wrongness of Holy Communion in the hand that he feels in conscience he cannot give Communion in the hand, even when the faithful demand it.
Dr. Kwasniewski said, “It is always UNDERSTOOD that if one’s conscience says that a proposed course of action is sinful or risks committing sin or being a near-occasion of sin, one must refrain from it.”
He added, however, that the priest making such a decision would likely get suspended by his bishop. Dr. Kwasniewski knows several priests who have been suspended over such matters.
Westen personally knows of priests who are tortured in conscience about having to administer Holy Communion in so unworthy a manner.
"In fact, my own father, Henry Westen, was an ordained deacon in the Maronite rite late in his life. He would never administer Holy Communion in the hand, and so at the parish where he served, the priests would announce that those wishing to receive on the hand should not be on the side where Deacon Westen was distributing Holy Communion.
"For me, the matter is quite clear. Some of you may recall that in one of my previous shows I covered this issue with a video called “5 reasons why Catholics should only receive Holy Communion on the tongue.” I encourage you to watch that if you’re interested.
"This matter of the proper way to receive Our Lord is so important that Voice of the Family did a whole conference on the subject in July 2020. As part of that conference, Catholic veteran pro-life activists from across the world joined together in unison to declare that they would only receive Holy Communion on the tongue while kneeling, out of reverence to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
"The joint declaration featured well-known Catholic pro-life leaders such as Dr. Gianna Molla, daughter of St. Gianna Beretta Molla; LifeSite’s Steve Jalsevac; pro-life warrior Abby Johnson; C-Fam president Austin Ruse; Pachamama “destroyer” Alexander Tschugguel; Michael Matt from The Remnant newspaper; and Virginia Coda Nunziante, head of the March for Life in Italy, and more.
"With so much irreverence for Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament today, I would beg you to consider making the sacrifice of receiving Jesus worthily, kneeling and on the tongue."
Theresa Rogers says:
ReplyDeleteGod bless him 🙏
I say:
Theresa, yes, this priest needs our prayer. He will almost certainly be persecuted.
David Cheeseman says:
Jesus simply broke the bread and passed it around His disciples. He passed the wine around in a cup in the same way. Therefore what's good enough for Jesus and His disciples is also good enough for me.
Bob Gill:
David yes, He passed those sacred things to the first bishops of His Church.
I say:
David, He also said, "unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood you shall not have life in you" (Jn 6:53).
Ray McKendry:
How could He say that standing in His complete Person in front of them There is no cannibalism in Christ's teaching.
He was speaking of the need to know and partake of Him SPIRITUALLY not physically which is an impossibility
Theresa Rogers:
David, when Jesus did that he was showing them he was the new Passover sacrifice. He hadn’t yet died.
Now he has died and risen the Eucharist IS his body and blood.
We know that when the host is placed in the hand tiny particles end up on the floor. We also know that in every tiny particle is the fullness of Christ.
I don’t know about you, but I would rather have the lord placed directly on my tongue with a paten underneath to catch any crumbs that fall. So I don’t stand on them and trample them into the ground or carpet. Then vacuum them up.
I also do not have consecrated hands. The apostles did.
I say:
Ray, the fact remains that He did say that, standing in His complete Person in front of His disciples. It is recorded in Sacred Scripture! "... Eat My FLESH and drink My BLOOD". It's not cannibalism, it's Mystery.
Julia du Fresne
Ray, do you mean an impossibility like any of His miracles? Like raising someone from the dead? Or raising Oneself from the dead? Think about it.
David Cheeseman:
Julia I thought this post was about the method of distributing the elements, not what he said about them
I say: It was, but this priest would not have had a mystical experience which persuaded him to risk all sorts of consequences by announcing a radical change to the method of distributing the elements if, as you say, They are not in reality His Flesh and Blood but mere bread and wine.
I add:
ReplyDeleteThis post initiated a debate on Facebook between Theresa Rogers (a Catholic with personal experience of several Protestant denominations) and David Cheeseman (a Protestant). I apologise to Theresa and David for not publishing their comments but they will understand that the editing involved in such a lengthy conversation (well over 61 comments) makes it inpracticable.
But I wish that readers of this blog could see the interchange of fact and opinion between Theresa and David. Perhaps the way to do it, for those interested, is to ask to become my 'friend' on FB - or Theresa's or David's.