10,000 LATE TBP SUBMISSIONS SMELL LIKE A DEAD TPM RAT

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That's what you think. Winston knows better 

Now what could possibly be the reason for the extension to submissions on ACT's Treaty Principles Bill? New Zealand's had months to say why they support or oppose David Seymour's legislation.

Does anyone else smell a large dead rat in the Māori health organisation Hapai Te Hauora hand-delivering more than 10,000 Treaty Principles Bill submissions to Parliament today? There were roughly 300,000 online submissions, half of them received on the last day. Did Maori treaty lawyer and barrister Roimata Smail not get her submission template to "empower everyday people to participate in the democratic process" up and going quite early enough?

Déjà vu: one can't help thinking of the Manurewa marae scandal, the photocopied papers and Te Pati Maori, now under investigation for fraud. And it's instructive to see just who's in the biz of offering templates for submissions: the Greens, the PSA - New Zealand's largest trade union - and the NZCTU.

self-explanatory

But isn't the TPB all "piss and wind"anyway? Because Prime Minister Luxon has said it's no go. And Winston Peters has it all sewn up, in legislation agreed on by National and ACT which will derail the Labour/TPM gravy train. Or else we'll hold a binding referendum.

Treaty bill submissions surge, Hapai health delivers 10,000 in person

‘Inundated’: Over 20k submissions flood Parliament deadline

Māori health organisation Hapai Te Hauora said it would deliver more than 10,000

 

Treaty Principles Bill submissions to Parliament today following a Justice Select Committee computer glitch. Over the past few days, Hapai has received more than

 

20,000, submissions to its portal.

Submissions closed at 11.59pm last night but there were calls for that deadline to be extended. Hapai managed to load 10,000 to the committee webpage and decided to deliver the rest personally. 

ACT  leader David Seymour has no problem with an extension to the Treaty Principles Bill.

Hundreds of complaints have been made that the overload of submissions has caused a meltdown - meaning people could not load their submissions online. Labour and Te Pāti Māori asked for last night’s deadline to be extended .

Meanwhile, New Zealanders are using innovative tools, including submission templates, to voice their concerns about the Bill.

 

Te Tiriti Gravy Train delivering

 

"Templates are a universal tool that empower everyday people to participate in the democratic process,” said best-selling author, lawyer and educator Roimata Smail. “They provide a straightforward way for Kiwis, who may not be academics or lawyers, to have their say on legislation that impacts us all.”

 

“This isn’t just for experts – every New Zealander has the right to tell the select committee what they think of this bill.”

 

“If someone believes this bill is wrong, they shouldn’t have to spend hundreds of hours drafting a submission from scratch. 

“The public response reflects the growing understanding of ordinary New Zealanders that Te Tiriti is our founding document, not just for academics and legal professionals to understand. The huge numbers of Kiwis who joined the hīkoi demonstrated this as well.

“It’s vital for the select committee to hear from everyday New Zealanders.

“This is about democracy in action – ordinary New Zealanders telling those in power that the Treaty Principles Bill is wrong.”

Wellington City Councillor Ray Chung: 

I am a born and bred Wellingtonian. I’ve lived here all my life. My parents are Chinese but I am a proud New Zealander and Wellingtonian. I’ve had what I consider a successful career in telecommunications and technology industries, travelled the world working for American, Swedish, German and British companies, including Siemens and Hansaluftbild in Germany, Trimble, Andrew Corporation, Graseby Goring-Kerr and Ericssons.

I never experienced racism until I was elected to council. Even more shocking was that those slurs came from people sitting around the same table and who were also elected to represent the city.

 

The Wellington City Council media statement yesterday (7 January) confirms the submission it has made against the Treaty Principles Bill. It is my proposition that this submission is outside the mandate of the council. 

 

To suggest that the council must make a submission because the Resource Management Act or the Local Government Act has Treaty provisions within them is a huge obfuscation of the issue.

 

In response to my argument, Councillor Teri O’Neill made the following statement and looked at me while saying it:  “It is sinister to pretend that your opposition to the submission is anything other than racist.”

 

Wellington City Councillor Teri O'Neill - uses "slander" 

The fact Ms. O’Neill considers my opposition to the Treaty Principles Bill submission as “racist”  is clear indication that Ms. O’Neill believes that I am racist. But not once did she argue against my position that such a submission falls outside of core council business.

 

I’ve always viewed such abusiveness and slurs as the last refuge of a weak argument. Slander is the tool used by fools when they know the debate is lost. It is then that they deploy words like “racist” or “Nazi”.

 

The Mayor, Tory Whanau, defended Ms. O’Neill on Newstalk ZB, saying she “never called anyone racist.” That’s a reinterpretation of events if ever I heard it. But then the Mayor has some form in these matters, for example, refusing to condemn remarks by the unelected iwi representative Liz Kelly who disparaged Filipino workers at Wellington Water as being “seasonal workers” and taking away jobs from Kiwis and refused to apologise when Wellington Water said they were highly qualified Water Engineers.

 

Too many councils in New Zealand engage in issues that are beyond their remit. The recent decision by the Nelson City Council to sanction Israeli companies operating in Palestine is a case in point. None of these issues are, in my opinion, matters for council involvement. Cultural politics and identity politics don’t belong around the council table.

 

Malakai 

@saltyreigns

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4h

An extension has been provided on submissions to the Treaty Principles bill. Just to make sure all those fraudulent, taxpayer funded letters from various separatist councils, groups and organisations make it over the line We’ve had literally months to submit. FFS.

Pigeon Julie

@Julie_nzkiwi

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3h

It's obvious the Maori Party (or whatever they're called now, Tea Party Patty Patti Putty) and their mates in the media are doing everything they can to fudge the numbers for the treaty principles bill. Free KFC vouchers for every person who makes a submission??

http://phanza.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Principles-of-the-Treaty-of-Waitangi-Bill-Submission-PHANZA-December-2024-1.pdf

Ro Edge

@rosey_nz

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Nov 11, 2024

So

@chrisluxonmp

has stated he doesn't agree with anything in the Treaty Principles Bill which means

@NZNationalParty

doesn't support the same rights and duties for all New Zealanders - but rather special rights for some. The next election will be interesting.

Michael Laws (for whom we hold no brief) weighs in:

The Treaty Principles Bill is great marketing for ACT & TPM but both camps are looking the wrong way.

Unlike David Seymour, Winston Peters successfully negotiated with Luxon to support his Treaty Principles Deletion Bill, which will become legislation. That’s called experience. Remember Labour made up Treaty Principles in 1989, and they even are similar to Seymour’s proposal. They then were added to over and over again in the following 35 years. The same would occur if Acts bill were to pass, and probably result in the insertion to the Treaty into many more pieces of legislation, a classic case of backfire.

Listen to Laws carefully explain to a caller why NZFirst is playing a strategic game and their legislation which has been agreed to by both National & Act to become law will be MUCH more injurious to the Treaty industrial complex then Acts marketing bill.

 

Laws says : “Everyone is looking the wrong way here, I’m going to delight in explaining this to Willie Jackson, it will be like pulling wings off a fly”

“If Winston Peters is going to remove references to the Treaty Principles from legislation, that is seriously going to diminish the influence of the Treaty on the everyday lives of NZ’ers more then Act's bill ever could”. https://x.com/i/status/1858740800408220067