Wednesday 11 September 2024

GANGS BILL: YOUR HOME ISN'T YOUR CASTLE ANY MORE


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When it's the police who get thrills from being offended, New Zealanders should be highly alarmed. Because it seems our government has reeled from Marxist under Ardern to fascist under Luxon and Co. 


Armed police have already busted a father of four on Auckland's North Shore for alleged X posts deemed offensive by authorities. https://www.noticer.news/new-zealand-police-raid-home-over-x-posts/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFN8n5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXjIDdKDcKOKW-m7HPrqC5pO6fTSB8Edz4827xLbg-wVKFKgvp8KvFrOKw_aem_pAxNYPq5LbYookfkqFSmZg#google_vignette

That's bad enough, but the "Gangs Bill" would prohibit gang members from wearing their patches in the privacy of their own home. It looks like going after the baddies but even the ban on patches in public is an offence against free speech (if you're intimidated, that's your choice) but this is something far more sinister. 


"A man's home is his castle" was established as common law in England in 1628 and is still surely a cherished precept in civilised society. But when the Firearms Safety Authority can decide a man is “no longer a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm” due to his “anti-government and anti-police attitude”, and the police can barge in to his home, frightening his wife and small children, for posts on X that were anti-gay, why stop there? 


Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith says the government is "getting tough on gangs". Ackshually, it's getting tough on us voters. This is censorship. The government is trying to stick a bandaid over the gaping, septic wound of New Zealand's negation and denial of God. 



A man's home is not his castle any more 



  • Government ministers are accused of avoiding consultation on a new power to ban gang patches
  • The Gangs Bill includes a clause banning gang insignia at home for repeat offenders
  • Critics argue the late amendment undermines democracy and limits freedom of expression rights

 

Government ministers are being accused of deliberately dodging consultation on a new power that would allow courts to ban gang patches in the home.

 

Expected to pass its third reading in the House this month, the Gangs Bill involves giving police new tools to crack down on gangs - including the power to disperse gatherings and ban patches in public.

 

But a clause added to the Bill in August - a month after the Justice Select Committee report was tabled - would require a court to issue a mandatory gang insignia prohibition order for repeat offenders, banning it from being present at the person’s “usual place of residence”.

 

A person convicted of publicly displaying gang insignia three times in five years would be banned from possessing or controlling insignia for five years, making it illegal for them to have it in their home.

 

A ministerial briefing released under the Official Information Act, shows options for an escalating penalty regime - including a possession ban order, and bespoke search powers - were presented by police to Minister Mark Mitchell in March.

 

Labour’s police spokeswoman Ginny Andersen says given options were being discussed in March, there is no good reason why the change was not put through the select committee process.

 

“It seems they’re hell-bent on pushing this through quickly without proper consultation, and that really compromises democracy,” she said.

 

Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith confirms the decision to amend the bill was made by Cabinet, after the select committee process – where interested parties could submit on the legislation – had closed.

 

Goldsmith said the Government makes no apologies for getting tough on gangs.

 

But convenor of the Law Society’s Criminal Law Committee Chris Macklin said it was “alarming” that a power with such broad consequences was introduced after the select committee process - meaning organisations, experts and the public could not have their say.

 

“This amendment came so far after the consultation process, and so close to what would be the bill’s third reading, that it’s almost like it’s been railroaded,” Macklin said.

 

“It’s a substantial change: a state reach into a very private space, namely a person’s home, and that’s the kind of thing that you would expect to be only implemented with the utmost care.”

 

He said the fact options were canvassed in March makes it more unreasonable that the changes were introduced late.

 

“If it was being discussed in March by any group that was interested, whether the police or otherwise, and the Government intended to act upon it, then that should have been made apparent to those that were working on the bill, and those who were submitting on it.”

 

An open letter from the Law Society to Goldsmith urged him to withdraw the amendment - calling it an “unjustified limitation on the right to freedom of expression,” and “not rationally connected to the stated purpose” of the gang patch ban, which is to reduce public intimidation.


 

This, on her t-shirt, got an elderly woman trespassed from New World Otaki


 

“There’s nothing like it in New Zealand, nothing like it in Australia, and to put that in Parliament without notice - it’s just a real breach of good parliamentary practice.”

 

Official briefings from late March showed police were concerned about enforcement of the gang patch ban, including the risk of continual defiance by a person who wasn’t deterred by the current penalties. The Police Association has also raised enforcement concerns.

The police are scared, and with good reason. But sometimes they're very brave. Like the officer driving past at speed who gave the finger to a pro-lifer near Hastings Hospital on baby-killing day (Fridays). 

 

The briefing stated the idea of an escalating penalty regime was raised as a possible solution to this risk.

 

“A number of options have been developed, with combinations of introducing a possession ban order on a third offence in five years (making it illegal for a person to possess gang insignia under any circumstances) with or without a related bespoke search power.”

 

It noted the Ministry of Justice wanted the bill to be left as it is, relying on police to enforce the gang insignia ban.

 

Andersen said concerns were raised in select committee about police enforcement, but potential solutions deserved to be heard alongside any other amendments..https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/gang-patch-ban-in-home-order-railroaded-through-without-proper-consultation-law-society/LUAKHL5RERCNZBLVTEG6CBPUJA/



St. John Gabriel Perboyr

 

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38 comments:

  1. I disagree on your comment about 'being intimidated is a choice'. It's an instinctual response to feeling threatened not a choice.

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  2. ROWAN ATKINSON just OBLITERATED the UK Government.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHyPRnrLnzA

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  3. Police are all about power n control . What they cant see is they are the dogs for the corrupt pedo pride bosses above them. They are the really owned slaves.

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  4. AT LEAST WE HAVE THE HEAD HUNTERS ON KIWI PEOPLES' SIDE - THINK OF WAYNE DOYLE - WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO HIM - IT WAS IN LAST WEEKENDS HERALD -

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  5. SAME BIRD TWO WINGS - THEY NEED TO TOPPLE -

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  6. Keep on with the conspiracy pills ; they’re obviously working !

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    1. ONLY PUSSIES ARE INTIMIDATED, GROW SOME ...!!!

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    2. Coarse but true. But the overwhelming majority who don't know God and His Church no longer know how to do that.

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  7. I absolutely agree that passing laws laying down what people may wear (or in this case, not wear) in the privacy of their homes is an unconscionable intrusion on personal freedoms. It's also almost certainly unenforceable, unless we're going to have stormtroopers breaking down people's front doors. I wouldn't have thought it possible that a government could have me siding with the gangs, but there you go.

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    1. That’s what the criminal does. It is an intrusion on personal freedoms.
      The criminal law is contract with the population.
      People surrender their right to protect their property and their person to the State.
      The gangs are not parties to that contract.
      They are criminals who steal,manufacture and distribute drugs, intimidate as well as many other acts in breach of the law.
      How do you propose that those of us who put our protection in the hands of the State should react to these gangsters who have not signed up to the contract?

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    2. We're talking about a very specific issue here. I fail to see how public safety is enhanced by the police obtaining search warrants and arresting people for having gang insignia inside their homes where only they can see it. Such a law change impinges on a traditional and very important private right for no apparent public benefit and should be seen as a dangerous over-reach of state power. What's next? Raids on private homes for forbidden books?

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    3. I hope not. But it’s not the same thing.

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    4. I agree with you absolutely Karl. This law is an invasion of private rights and personal freedom. The government also must realise that this law is unenforceable in real life. If they don't - then they really are in cuckoo land.

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  8. We must never give into Maori ever as we are all just New Zealanders

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    1. we all bleed the same blood unless yours is black then that's another story

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  9. Paul Mundt, this is racism, we’re not the same we’re all different

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    1. Lee Lee racism is for people who have no heart

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    2. Lee Lee , we are the same, just some think they are special

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    3. Do no harm, love your neighbour as yourself, nwo humans are the same, new earth we are all different we are all one.

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  10. Phil Arps
    Puti Warbrick ignore the 200,000+ imports that both govts rely upon to garner the vote...

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    1. hil Arps what is evolving is behind the iron curtains, that majority can't see. Good and bad. It is up to the extraordinary people to share the aroha no matter what division is created. Racism is nothing compared to what's coming and when majority see that in the future our colour isn't going to matter cos the enemy will show itself in force.
      When you see beyond what's infront of you you'll see another side.

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    2. do you think that I do not know of their wants, does this not awaken your racial awareness... Kiwi?

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    3. everyone has wants it don't matter what colour you are and if you think some deserve more than others, then that defeats the purpose of being alive.
      Live life and be kind to anyone , it isn't hard or cost a penny and be mindful of the enemy. It loves division on all levels

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    4. Puti Warbrick I agree mostly, aside from this defeating factor, it is extremely contradictory. "Everyone has wants it don't matter what colour you are and if you think some deserve more than orhers, then that defeats the purpose of being alive"
      Majority of which the the "mindful enemy" import for purpose of dividing NZs bicultural agreement don't deserve much more than One Policy, by right of repatriation and natural justice.

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    5. Settle down.
      They’re gaming it.
      The TPU will begin a three waters style submissions campaign, then National and NZ first will say “well since we got this many submissions then the public must really want a referendum”.
      All is going according to plan.
      Asset sales will begin after the next election.

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    6. Will Thian funny, the referendum results from locals in these wards was an overwhelming no except for I think 1 ward, no to maori seats, and again our elected officials not listening to the people who voted them in ??, who's actually gaining from this political chicanery

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    7. Peter Chapman they still have two years to program the freedom community to spread their message.
      Once the first submission campaign starts they can run the “the left won’t let us talk about this, we’re victims” strategy. Then they’ll tell you it’s the majority opinion.
      Don’t worry about, you’ll win.

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    8. Will Thian luxon, john keys puppet. Has already set this up with councils a week or so ago. Telling them to tighten their belts cos there is no funding... and this straight after rates hikes.
      They will come for houses once the state and council owned assets are divided between the internationalist.
      One fkn Policy
      A retrospective public death penalty for High Treason and Terrorism... they are all guilty.

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    9. Phil Arps death threats, or suggestions of, are not a line of discussion I am interested in participating inPhil Arps

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    10. Will Thian obviously, it is the deportatations that you truly fear, your neglect of this point and the framing of your weak wording examples the fact.

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  11. Mark Wairepo
    Rock up Rednecks

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    1. Mark Wairepo
      Yet another racist!

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    2. Joe Rosen
      Mark Wairepo the term redneck was given to white fellas who would work along side the African people in the USA. This term was given because their necks where exposed to the sun and they got sunburnt there. So what is your terminology of a redneck. Be nice to know

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  12. There are no principles in the original treaties

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  13. Joe Rosen Oh dear Lisa Storm thinks there are. Best watch Winston the Maori explain it to you13 September 2024 at 19:50


    Oh dear Lisa Storm thinks there are. Best watch Winston the Maori explain it to you

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  14. Tere Roberts
    What’s this korero about wahine, you saying we bullies?

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    1. Tere Roberts As I say above, a tiny minority of Maori are. Just as there are bullies in any ethnicity.

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