Monday 25 December 2023

AWAITING NZ BISHOPS' RESPONSE ON BLESSING SODOMY


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Ah, but that was then. March 2021. Now, it's different



Yes, it's Christmas Day, when Christians celebrate the birth of their Saviour, but in the Catholic Church that cataclysmic event is overshadowed by the Vatican's Fiducia Supplicans, which all but the wilfully blind perceive gives the okay to blessing sodomitical unions. 

It's pretty obvious that the Sankt Gallen Mafia who manoeuvred Jorge Bergoglio into the Chair of Peter for precisely this purpose have given him the hurry-up, because in March 2021 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was saying exactly the opposite: "such blessings cannot be considered licit." https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2021-03/holy-see-the-church-cannot-bless-same-sex-unions.html

Antipope Bergoglio and his romantically-inclined ghost writer Cardinal 'Tucho' Fernandez of the CDF have turned the Church into turmoil. Bishops and episcopal conferences all over the world are in open revolt against the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and its faithless denial of doctrine. 

"How," asks Sir Raymond de Souza KHS, KM, "will the NZ Conference of Bishops respond?" 

Pity our poor NZ bishops. A fence is not a comfy place to be - but on which side should they get off? The US bishops, influenced no doubt by the hugely popular but boring Bishop Barron, are toadying to the pope (with the notable exception of the sacked Bishop Joseph Strickland). But in the UK, 500 Catholic priests in the UK know which way is up. They "are really upset about these proposed blessings because they cannot in conscience perform them.".https://www.ncregister.com/news/british-association-of-priests-expresses-grave-concern-about-fiducia-supplicans

Bishop Martin A. Mtumbuka of Malawi: “It is very sad, that after 2, 000 years of converting pagans to Christianity, some of our tired brother bishops would want to convert Christians back to paganism.”

Archbishop Hector Aguer of La Plata: "Fiducia Supplicans should not be obeyed. And it is perfectly correct to deny blessings to homosexual 'marriages,' and to marriages living in an irregular situation.'


Archbishop Hector Aguer of La Plata

Sir Raymond de Souza is "Brazilian by birth, Catholic by grace, American by choice" , with a string of credentials to his name and a reputation even in New Zealand as a Catholic apologist. He weighs in here:


Sir Raymond de Souza


From the Desk of Sir Raymond J de Souza, KHS, KM

 

Dear Friends,

 

The document produced by the Vatican Dicastery that is suppose to defend the Catholic Faith and Morals has been received with RESISTANCE from Bishops all over the world.

Here is a list, and counting:

 

In 3 days, dozens of Bishops have issued official communiqués warning that in their dioceses there will be no blessings to same-sex ‘couples’ or anything that is contemplated in the 'Fiducia Supplicans'. So far the list (being updated) is this: 

 

1. Episcopal Conference of Ghana; 

 2. Episcopal Conference of Zambia; 

3. Episcopal Conference of Malawi; 

4. Episcopal Conference of Nigeria; 

5. Episcopal Conference of Togo; 

6. Episcopal Conference of Benin; 

7. Episcopal Conference of Cameroon; 

9. Episcopal Conference of Zimbabwe; 

10. Episcopal Conference of Angola; 

11. Episcopal Conference of São Tomé and Príncipe; 

12. Cardinal Ambongo, president of SECAM, has asked all African bishops' conferences to say that they do not accept the document; 

13. Episcopal Conference of Ukraine (Latin Rite); 

14. Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the Greek Catholic Church of Ukraine; 

2. Episcopal Conference of Zambia; 

3. Episcopal Conference of Malawi; 

4. Episcopal Conference of Nigeria; 

5. Episcopal Conference of Togo; 

6. Episcopal Conference of Benin; 

7. Episcopal Conference of Cameroon; 

9. Episcopal Conference of Zimbabwe; 

10. Episcopal Conference of Angola; 

11. Episcopal Conference of São Tomé and Príncipe; 

12. Cardinal Ambongo, president of SECAM, has asked all African bishops' conferences to say that they do not accept the document; 

13. Episcopal Conference of Ukraine (Latin Rite); 

14. Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the Greek Catholic Church of Ukraine; 

2. Episcopal Conference of Zambia; 

3. Episcopal Conference of Malawi; 

4. Episcopal Conference of Nigeria; 

5. Episcopal Conference of Togo; 

6. Episcopal Conference of Benin; 

7. Episcopal Conference of Cameroon; 

9. Episcopal Conference of Zimbabwe; 

10. Episcopal Conference of Angola; 

11. Episcopal Conference of São Tomé and Príncipe; 

12. Cardinal Ambongo, president of SECAM, has asked all African bishops' conferences to say that they do not accept the document; 

13. Episcopal Conference of Ukraine (Latin Rite); 

14. Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the Greek Catholic Church of Ukraine; 

15. Polish Bishops' Conference; 

16. Archdiocese of Astana, Kazakhstan; 

17. Five hundred British priests of the "Confraternity of Catholic Clergy".

 

There are also many bishops who have not spoken publicly and countless priests who refuse to make these so-called blessings. Then remember who is dividing the Church: The Vatican itself! They are certainly not the ones who defend what the truth of what Church has always defended. 

 Let us remain firm in the Faith of Our Fathers, to the Apostles, taught by Our Divine Saviour! (Please read 1 Corinthians 1)

How will the NZ conference of Bishops respond? 

 

Sir Raymond de Souza, KHS, KM 

15. Polish Bishops' Conference; 

16. Archdiocese of Astana, Kazakhstan; 

17. Five hundred British priests of the "Confraternity of Catholic Clergy".

 

There are also many bishops who have not spoken publicly and countless priests who refuse to make these so-called blessings. Then remember who is dividing the Church: The Vatican itself! They are certainly not the ones who defend what the truth of what Church has always defended. 

 Let us remain firm in the Faith of Our Fathers, to the Apostles, taught by Our Divine Saviour! (Please read 1 Corinthians 1)

How will the NZ conference of Bishops respond? 

 

Sir Raymond de Souza, KHS, KM 

1 Cor 10: "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no schisms among you; but that you be perfect in the same mind, and in the same judgment."

 

1 Romans 1: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice: 

... For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. ...  Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. Who changed the truth of God into a lie; ... For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy. Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

 

Matt 5:37 - "But let your statement 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and 'No,' 'No.' Anything more than these comes from the evil one."


Pray for our NZ Bishops' Conference. 

 

 




Oh come let us adore Him

35 comments:

  1. Send the silly sausage to Notre Dame University where he will learn about Biblical exegesis instead of relying on outdated Thomistic moralists. Silly old Sousa.

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    1. I assume you refer to de Souza. Is the biblical exegesis of which you seem enamoured canonised opinion, like that of those you call "outdated Thomistic moralists"?

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    2. Anonymous, I think you are most likely being political, throwing around terms like 'Biblical exegesis' and 'outdated Thomistic moralists'.
      It is really Pope Francis who is playing games, replacing Scripture, Apostolic Tradition, and 2,000 years of doctrine at a stroke, with some vague undefined concept of 'pastoral care'. He now virtually denies sin; after all, if there is no sin then sodomy is not a sin either. Isn't it strange that a Church that has a sex abuse crisis (which is mostly against males), suddenly wants to legitimise homosexuality and sodomy.
      These political games have to stop now, they are damaging our Church. Legitimate, reasoned theology must be allowed to flourish again.

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  2. The New Zealand bishops conference (NZCBC) must make a statement on Fiduces Supplicans, they cannot remain silent. I have been shown the photographs of what was almost certainly a gay blessing or wedding taking place in the Palmerston North Cathedral, 5 years ago. The ceremony was taking place with full dressup in suits, photographer, the lot. This formality was already in full defiance of the so-called rules laid out in the Pope's latest statement Fiduces Supplicans, which calls for 'blessings' only to be given informally. Who are the elites who get to do these things behind closed doors in the name of the Church and on behalf of the rest of us? Who were the people in the Church who planted all the pro gay lines in the synod documents that went forward from New Zealand to Rome in our name? Were the bishops a party to this? Fortunately the African bishops killed the whole pro gay thing at the synod, they would not have a bar of it. They killed any mandate Pope Francis might have thought he had to push the pro gay message, so he went ahead and issued Fiduces Supplicans in defiance. Now the African bishops are lining up against Pope Francis. The Catholic Church is a mess of devious games and dirty tricks. We laity just want to worship God in peace.

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  3. State the Obvious!

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  4. Only bigots care about this. Get your own house in order.

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    1. I don't know what weird crap you get up to in your house and I don't want to know. But here's some advice from your Bible.. “Judge not, lest ye be judged”

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  5. Oh dear. Here we go again: we must not judge people but we must judge their actions if they affect us, as the so-called pope's actions most certainly do.

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    1. What people do in their own bedrooms is of no consequence to you. Get over yourself.

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    2. What people do in their own bedrooms, if it's sinful, is of much consequence to God Who is wounded by such actions; and if not repented, of eternal consequence to themselves.
      So the command Jesus gave me, " love others as you love yourself", means it's also of eternal consequence to me if I do nothing to warn others of the consequences of sinful actions in their own bedrooms. Just as you would try to prevent a child being run over by a car you saw coming. If you did nothing you would be partly responsible for the child's injury or death.

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    3. A child does not have the maturity to take care of themself. Two consenting adults do. Stay in your own lane. Leave people alone.

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    4. If you saw a consenting adult, then, in the path of an oncoming car and did nothing to save him/her you would be partly responsible for his/her injury or death.

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    5. That is hardly the same as what consenting adults do in their bedroom. Good grief 🙄

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    6. The principle is the same: God commands that we do what we can to save others from mortal danger.

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  6. Maria Barnard
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%205%3A20&version=NKJV

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  7. This is blasphemy a marriage can only be between a male and a female but for others they have civil
    Union which protects them financially. It is wrong to try to make this mainstream because it is not and this is not hate speech as these people can cohabitate legally but marriage is a biblical rite and they can’t be part of this

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    1. oh you are so incorrect about this. Marriage was instituted well before the Bible. Idiot. Biblical rite ...LOL your actually stupid. Why does it matter to you?

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    2. Cavill by name, cavil by nature (sorry, I couldn't help myself lol).

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  8. Nick van der Westhuizen26 December 2023 at 14:08

    Wait until they find.out what has been happening behind the doors... IN THE VATICAN...

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  9. Mike Kuipers von Lande26 December 2023 at 14:30

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    1. Mike Kuipers von Lande27 December 2023 at 14:59

      I’m not a fan of this pope either. But I think it’s worthwhile to consider other aspects too.

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    2. Mike Kuipers von Lande27 December 2023 at 16:50


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  10. Anti-Christ = pope Bergoglio.

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  11. ou shall know them by their fruit - I suggest you find a new sinless house Matthew 7:15-20
    New King James Version
    You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
    15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

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    1. The fruits of the Catholic Church pre-Vatican II were countless heroic saints, miracles and miraculous achievements all over the world in accordance to Christ's bidding, to preach the gospel to all nations.
      The pre-Vat2 Church, while not sinless because it is a human institution as well as divine, is the one I have found in the Traditional Latin Mass and the faithful, orthodox priests who celebrate it using the 1962 missal. and who preach the Gospel, unadulterated. Assist at one of those Masses and see for yourself.

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    2. I'm not sure there is a gospel abiding church out there.

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    3. There is; it's the Catholic Church - and I don't mean the faux, post-Vat2 model with which Bergoglio et al have slyly replaced it, so gradually and deceitfully that the majority of Catholics seem not to have noticed.

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    4. The Catholic and all protestant Churches followed suit changed the Sabbath to Sunday another pagan practice of sun worship https://discover.hubpages.com/religion.../Falsereligion

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    5. The Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday to eommemorate Christ's Resurrection and the Descent of the Holy Spirit five weeks later, on the BVM and the Apostles.

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  13. If our bishops are as weak as the Anglican Church in England then they will seemingly allow it. It does appear to be becoming all inclusive of lb qt activities and and when some bishops have spoken up against this they have been removed from there positions

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    1. Exactly. All according to Bergoglio's M O, which is to remove from his faux Church all the faithful bishops, priests and laity who stand in his way. Hence his 'Traditionis Custodes' banning the Traditional Latin Mass which gives the aforementioned the divine sustenance they need to resist him.

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