Monday, 4 July 2022

CONCERNED CATHOLICS NOT WELCOME AT SYNOD

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Venue for the National Synod: St Catherine's, Kilbirnie, Wellington


"The National Synodal meeting in Wellington on 2 July 2022 was attended by two Catholics who had not been invited."

(A guest post, from a reader of this blog, provides another view of the National Synod reported in N.O. BISHOPS SIT WITH SODOMY AT ST CATHERINE'S (July 3) ).

"The meeting was attended by the bishops and about 80 invited Catholics mostly flown in, from all over New Zealand, in order to pull together all diocesan synod submissions and produce the final document for NZ to send to Rome, where all national submissions globally will be combined. 

A request was made to the bishops before the meeting to allow for at least one independent observer. The request was declined but two readers of this blog decided they should be there anyway.  They were asked to leave and after Cardinal John Dew’s keynote speech they complied. 

They took these actions because of their grave concerns about the conduct of the synod, and its potential future impact on the Church of Christ. They did not enjoy the friction created by their presence and prayed that they were there for good and right reasons. The friction should not be blamed on individuals (although many are behaving badly) so much as on radical decisions which have been taken by the Church without proper transparency and explanation. 

Their motivations were:

  1. The NZ diocesan synod documents already published seemed to advocate radical change within the Church. It seemed the synod outcomes would be used to justify massive changes in the Church, and/or the massive changes already made in recent years which are heading towards a radical 'new church'.
  2. All this change seemed to be happening without the theological or doctrinal backing or previous methods of Church development. Dioceses seemed increasingly free to create their own rules and doctrine.
  3. The analysis and compilation methods used for the synod were not rigorous and were far too liable to capture by factional interest groups. 
  4. Only a small proportion of Catholics nationally have contributed to the synod, and those who did contribute seem to be dominated by elderly Europeans, especially females. New ethnic groups are rapidly filling our pews, but their synodal contributions seem to be minimal.  Is the synodal output representative? 
  5. Massive tensions within the Church have been created by changes made or proposed, but these have not been transparently discussed or acknowledged, especially in Church-controlled publications.
  6. It seemed to the observers, as concerned Catholics, that different factions are fighting for control of the Church. Some factions seem to have privileged positions inside the synodal process.
  7. Years of Catholic 'leadership' expressing alternative, perverted or weak teaching have conditioned many Catholic laity to accept the radical 'new church' that now seems proposed. Many of the laity have already accepted highly diluted Catholic ‘values’ or are drawing their values from secular society ("the world") to fill the vacuum created in and by the Church. For many, the synod has been an echo chamber for reflecting their questionably Catholic ‘values’ back onto the Church.  Nevertheless, it is hard to believe that a significant proportion of parishioners are in favour of the radical changes that seem to be enunciated in the synod output documents seen so far.

  8. It seemed that in this synodal process many regarded the Catholic Church as belonging to them and that they were free to change her as they see fit. They seemed not to understand that the Church is Jesus Christ, and His teachings must still apply.

Combined with the factors above, the following issues contributed to loss of confidence in the synodal process, to the extent that they felt compelled to act.

Two major recent synod collation meetings were deliberately done behind closed doors. The meeting in Palmerston North cathedral was by invite only; uninvited parishioners were sent away. No evidence could be found of the event being advertised, even in parish newsletters. The National Synod meeting was similarly declared ‘invite only’, and a written request to all bishops to allow observers, or for a webcast, was declined.

On Saturday the observers simply walked into the synod venue unchallenged.

The attendees were overwhelmingly European, showing lack of diversity in a Church with a large and growing membership of other ethnicities. The two observers estimated the transport and catering costs to be in the order of $40,000.

A woman asked them to leave. The observers said they would comply if asked by a bishop (there were several present) but this spokesperson seemed to believe that as a 'woman of the Church' she had the necessary authority, as if as one of this new category of 'women of the Church' she was equivalent to a bishop. The observers had noticed that recently priests seemed afraid to exercise their ordained authority and instead rely on “women of the Church” to take control in difficult situations.

They undertook not to be disruptive (they consider the synod itself as potentially disruptive to the Church) and said they would leave after the keynote address.

The synod introduction was run by several women, except for a lengthy preamble from a male, in Te Reo, and the keynote address by Cardinal Dew. The introduction seemed to lack spiritual, doctrinal, and theological depth.

They were shocked to see, in the conference room, a notice board displaying 'gay' propaganda, featuring an icon of the Madonna and Christ Child (the Black Madonna of Czestochowa), both wearing rainbow halos. It is unbelievable that a Catholic school could display such material and leave it visible at the synod meeting. The Catholic competence of management of both organisations - the Church and St Catherine's - must be questioned."

 


St Catherine of Siena, please pray for the Church


22 comments:

  1. Justice Veracity4 July 2022 at 12:38

    When I first heard about the sin-nod, I thought "here we go" "They are going to single out voices in the church that match the will of the pope and other upper echelon hierarchy." "They will silence all other voices, and then at the end of the synod will say this is what the laity overwhelmingly want!" Well obviously judging by this story and others I have heard, that is exactly what is happening.
    Well done to those two trads who tried to attend. Pity that they could not have stayed to hear all that was discussed.
    Don't worry, God is watching and he is keeping tabs.

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  2. An unbelievable state of affairs, especially when reading that observers were not invited – and as for the insult of being asked to leave! Why on earth all the secrecy? And regarding “Dioceses seemed increasingly free to create their own rules and doctrine” is a real worry because we have seen a lot of that happen after Vatican II as many churches adopted their own interpretation of how the Mass should be celebrated. Hopefully we don’t end up eventually with a Vatican III.

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  3. Ned Haliburton exposed these tactics in his Hui Whanau leaflet. Structural analysis, group dynamics etc.

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  4. Bob D says:
    You have labelled yourself Julia and Bruce Tichbon as infiltrators. You have exposed yourself as a racist and bigot (again). Your comment was heard that “ I am a Catholic and I have a right to be here”. There was so such right. Each diocese organised delegates to attend on behalf of their diocese. Your writing belies a distinct anti-Catholic sentiment. Your blog is becoming more widely known and the vitriol you spew makes those trying to live the Gospel- Catholic or not, feel a deep sadness for you that you have somewhere lost your compassion and ability to love, which is a terrible shame - remind us again of the Greatest Commandment? Be encouraged to take a look at yourself and truly examine what you have become - if you are so anti- Pope Francis, maybe it is time to honestly examine whether or not it is time to join the St Pius X community so you can be part of the Tridentine Rite that you cannot let go of. It is so sad to see you so angry and unhappy. You are lovable Julia, but your
    commentary is not.

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    1. Anon says:
      Bob D, it seems you were one of the anointed ones who got invited to attend at Church expense. What did the bishops think of the Madonna and Child with the rainbow halos on the wall?

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    2. Anon says:
      I can summarise the document that will come out of Saturday's synod process right now:
      gay rights
      climate change
      social justice
      ecumenism (is that one world church?)
      women's rights (and priests)
      married priests
      there is no sin any more - only love
      sodomy is fine, its love (there is no sin any more)
      lots and lots of Maori stuff (token mention of multiculturalism)
      abortion, contraception, failing Catholic marriages, no youth at Mass - shhh, dont mention it

      Above all will be the presumption that the Church belongs to the people and they can change it how they like. The Church used to belong to Jesus Christ, He and His Church were unchangeable. But that's old hat, rigid stuff.

      There, that didn't cost $40,000

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    3. Bob D says: "There was so such right." Freudian slip?

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    1. Fr James Martin SJ circle 2?

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  6. Teresa Walton says:
    Bravo dear Julia! What a splendid job! Praise the Divine Will for your Courage. You are more than 'a woman of the Church'.
    "Thou art a Daughter of the Church", says St Teresa of JESUS.

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  7. Matt W says:
    I could add that Solzhenitsyn was reflecting on the nature of a Communist dictatorship which he knew well. They have a duality - they like chaos and they like order. They use the chaos while at the same time they are very ready to impose order.

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  8. Let's start praying again and 7 minutes silence in thanksgiving after communion or is that too hard? See, its become a celebration of us. Save us Lord.

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  9. Anon says:
    We lay folks must fight for our Church, or we will lose it. We must pray and protest more and more. The priests cannot help us, they have been suppressed. They are bound by an oath of loyalty to their bishops. The following shows recently how ruthlessly a priest who tries to expose the truth will be suppressed.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pope-francis-bans-priest-who-publicly-challenged-him-from-all-public-ministry/?utm_source=popular

    Christ promised His Church would not be destroyed completely, but we could lose access to it for a long time. The Japanese Catholics lost their church for hundreds of years, we dont want to go through that.

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  10. Matt W says:
    The fact that the Bishops were unwilling to allow observers to be present shows a) they have something to hide from the rest of us and b) the structure of the Synod is prone to hijacking by the organisers and appointed delegates. This means in turn that the whole process is controlled by an inner circle at, or very near, the very top.
    We bear in mind too, that the concept of Synod as proposed by Pope Francis is a process by which the Church can re-interpret Doctrine, Dogma, Scripture and Sacred Tradition.- which means change according to the present day.
    Solzhenitsyn spoke of the 3 circles of power (some would say more). Only the very few at the top - mostly around the leader or pulling strings in the background, are the ones who control. Their directives are given out through the 2nd and 3rd circles - the apparent regional managers and the apparent local managers.
    Initiative from the bottom is stifled, absorbed, rejected or converted into initiative from the top. People in the outer circles have the illusion of being involved in the governing process (and some are), but mostly they're useful simply to keep the circles of power operating. In this aspect, the representatives are meant only to purport, to represent. Woe betide them if they go beyond what the inner circle desires.
    Dioceses seeming to set their own rules is fragmentation. This is to some extent desired by the inner circle - who are the ones who decide what is and what isn't. This is to the extent that they see that they continue to control the narrative and thus the direction of the ship.
    Yes, it does look like they are going to claim, at the end, that this is what the Church really is.

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  11. Teresa Walton adds:
    I really think though you should have taken it to the edge! and stood your ground! Because when you think about it, many Christians have gone to prison for the unborn baby. I think you would find it would have turned out in the Divine Will to be more profitable! "Opportunity knocks once", says Shakespeare. I can still see in my mind's eye Mary O'NEILL being dragged out of the hospital, from the abortion ward (dressed as Father Christmas with gumboots on) by two hospital security men.

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    1. I say:
      We left when we had achieved what we hoped to achieve (and, by and in the Divine Will, far more). It was the Feast of the Visitation and a First Saturday so we hoped also to attend the Traditional Latin Mass and receive Holy Communion: which - although we were late for Mass - by God's grace we were also able to achieve. Fiat voluntas tua!

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    2. Teresa, Not really a comparable situation.

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    3. The comparison is in the principle. When going into battle one doesn't run off to chapel or go fishing midway. In these confrontations we must be prepared to take it to the edge and beyond. Call their bluff, put them on the defensive, place your stake in the ground. So therefore i am impressed by Teresa and heartened by her approach.

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  12. Respectfully disagree.

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  13. "I have one point.

    Priests have a vow of obedience. It is first and foremost to God. Everyone from the Pope down has the same vow so there should be no problems.

    Priests do not make a vow to:

    Satan,
    Any of Satan's minions,
    All those outside the Church,
    The Antipope,
    An Antipope,
    Heretics, and
    Schismatics.

    Priests (and the laity) are required to defend the Church in whatever way their station in life allows.

    Letter writing (or speaking out) is actually an important step. It is a required first step.

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  14. We could also add that we are heartened by this foray into the lions' den - we all remain more in touch with what's going on behind the scenes thanks to efforts such as these.

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  15. Auckland diocese synod document:
    https://www.aucklandcatholic.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/SYNOD-SYNTHESIS.pdf

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