Saturday, 29 June 2024

+VIGANO SAYS FRANCIS IS AN ANTIPOPE


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Today, on the feast of the Apostles Peter and Paul, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano accused Francis, whom the world calls Pope, of being an Antipope.

We might ask why the accusation did not come a long time ago from cardinals who believe that to be true, and also consider themselves loyal to the Church. Maybe they thought the Mystical Bride of Christ would be torn apart by the schism that would likely follow such a declaration by princes of the Church, and thought it better to sit tight and wait for Francis' demise and a holy pope to succeed him.

But are cardinals, like all priests and bishops, not called by St Paul whose feast we celebrate today to "Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine" (2 Tim:4.2)? Christ called them to the priesthood, not to politics, and any suspicion that the cardinals might be hanging on to their red hats, fearful of meeting the fate of excommunication that awaits Archbishop Vigano, they ought surely to find intolerable.

The Church is enduring her passion, just as Christ her Head has done in order to bring her to birth. But +Vigano could take heart from the results of the persecution of Antipope Francis already evident in the resurgence of the Traditional Latin Mass, especially among young people.

In Melbourne, for example, in this story of two Latin Mass communities, we see the attraction to Truth and Beauty exerted on young Catholics and converts to Catholicism, of the "Mass of Ages".




27-year-old Catholic convert Zachary Dennis leads the procession during Latin mass at St Aloysius church in Caulfield



It's a freezing Sunday morning, and 23-year-old Catholic convert Llewellyn Beer has travelled nearly 35 kilometres across Melbourne to attend mass at St Aloysius Church in Caulfield.

He says it's worth the trip to attend the only Catholic church in Melbourne that exclusively holds services in Latin.

And he's not alone: by 10:30 am, every pew is occupied, many by young parishioners like him.

"Zoomers want authenticity more than anything, and I think you'll find it at a Latin Mass," Beer told triple j Hack.

Another young Catholic, 22-year-old Jacob Goicoa, agreed; he's also travelled for over an hour to be here.

"Definitely over half [are younger than 30]," he estimated.

 

Jacob Goicoa

"I don't think it really mattered how far it was, if it was an hour or two hours," he said.

"As long as it was Latin Mass – that's all that matters."

Pope 'out of touch'

The Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), also called the Tridentine Mass, was codified in 1570, and it's starkly different to the standard Catholic mass conducted in English.

Priests face away from their congregation,

... that is to say, priests face toward God ... 

chanting in Latin and burning incense, while during communion the congregants kneel and receive the hosts directly into their mouths.

"It's divine and so uncompromising – you're witnessing something that's beyond your own feeble existence," 21-year-old Elisha Andres said.

"You can tell this Mass is not about you, it's not about entertainment, it's really about the Lord."

Until the Vatican changed its policy in the 1960s to favour the new Mass 

...  The Novus Ordo Missae (NOM or NO), written by the Freemason Monsignor Annibale Bugnini with the assistance of Protestant clerics ....

the Latin Mass was the standard across the Catholic faith, but its celebration has been discouraged to a greater or lesser extent by successive church leaders since.

That is to say, since the Second Vatican Council. 

In 2021, Pope Francis imposed new restrictions on which churches could celebrate Latin Mass, ultimately leading Melbourne Archbishop Peter Comensoli to seek permission from the Vatican to continue the weekly Latin service at St Patrick's Cathedral, which was denied.

The cathedral celebrated its final Latin mass last week, and predictably, the news wasn't welcomed by the parishioners at St Aloysius.

"Everyone has a right to feel sad," 20-year-old Izabella Sensi said.

"It actually makes me want to continue and share this Mass more because it is being attacked, basically."

Young people's idealism and sense of fair play comes into play.  



Fr Glen Tattersall (right) leads the Parish of St John Henry Newman, the only Catholic parish in Melbourne to exclusively celebrate Mass the TLM

Father Glen Tattersall, who led the Latin Mass at St Patrick's

... Father Glen would likely say that he "celebrated" or "said" the Latin Mass, rather than  'led' it ... 

and continues to do so at St Aloysius, was more blunt in his assessment of the Pope.

"I think he's out of touch," Fr Tattersall said of the Pope.

"I think he's kind of typical of his age and background – he doesn't understand that we're not stuck in the 1960s any more."

"He's talking a lot about 'everyone is welcome in the church', but I'm sorry to say that a lot of Catholics don't feel very welcome at the moment in this pontificate."

Fr Tattersall is known as an outspoken conservative in Australia's Catholic clergy.

In 2017, he was quoted in The Australian newspaper saying "it's really the liberal-minded and their fellow travellers who have been wrecking the church over a number of years", and "there are many railing against sexual abuse – that's sexual abuse, isn't it?"

Speaking to Hack in 2024, Fr Tattersall declined to elaborate on his views about Pope Francis' other reforms to Catholic doctrine, which include allowing blessings for same-sex couples and allowing transgender people to be baptised and become godparents.

Notice how "the world" sees these moves on the part of this pontificate: as "reforms to Catholic doctrine". But hello! Catholic doctrine cannot be 'reformed' because Catholic doctrine is the truth which is unchanging and unchangeable. If it were not, it would not be the truth.

'Keep morals separate'

Speaking after the Mass at St Aloysius, Elisha Andres said her preference for Latin wasn't related to her political or moral beliefs.

 

21-year-old journalism student Elisha Andres attends the Latin Mass in Caulfield

Elisha is young, and a presumably a refugee from the Novus Ordo, which is to say she is poorly catechised.  

"I do tend to keep morals, not divorced, but I guess separate," she explained.

"I think morals are shaped by my culture, you know, being Filipino as well, that's a different set of morals in itself."

Perhaps not so different in morals as different from religious practice; Filipinos, at least in New Zealand, tend to be more devout. 

Other young Catholics at St Aloysius expressed similar sentiments, saying they preferred the 'sincerity' and 'authenticity' of the Latin language and the ancient ceremony.

"Growing up, I didn't really feel it as much going to the English (i.e. NO) Mass," Jacob Goicoa said.

"And then once [I attended] the Latin Mass, it just blows you away. Once you get there, you just can't get back."

Nonetheless, the irony of rejecting Pope Francis' modernising reforms, which are intended to broaden the appeal of the church, wasn't lost on these young Catholics.

"I suppose from the outside looking in, it wouldn't make much sense," 27-year-old Catholic convert Zachary Dennis said of his preference for Latin.

"But once I had resolved to become Catholic, this to me was the only logical choice and I'm assuming those around me would also agree."

 

The choir at St John Henry Newman sings Latin hymns and Gregorian chant

Harmless trend or brewing schism?

The number of Catholics attending Latin Mass still remains small, especially compared to the hundreds of thousands of Australians who attend a vernacular Catholic Mass every week.

Given time, they'll wake up to the NO and its consequences. Just as the secular world is waking up to the Jab and its concomitant injuries and deaths - inflicted, of course, according to Antipope Francis, as 'an act of love'. 

Data from the National Centre for Pastoral Research, an agency of the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference, suggests around 3,400 Australian Catholics attended Latin Mass each week in May 2021, a number that was likely affected by COVID-19 lockdowns.

Associate professor Joel Hodge leads the School of Theology at the Australian Catholic University. He said there are a handful of parishes in each major Australian city that celebrate it weekly, but it remains a fringe group within the broader church.

'A fringe group'  is, sadly, the sort of description of Latin Mass communities one has come to expect from theologians at Catholic universities.  

"In Melbourne or Brisbane, where there are a couple of parishes that are more more focused on the Tridentine, we're talking about maybe a thousand people on a weekend," he said.

Father Shawn Murphy, the priest who leads St Aloysius' Young Adults group, said the parish regularly attracted "about 750" parishioners on a Sunday.

"Certainly, this has been recognised as one of the fastest-growing [parishes] by the Archbishop of Melbourne," he said.

 

Father Shawn Murphy was ordained just one year ago. Now, at 34, he is the youngest priest at the Parish of St John Henry Newman in Caulfield.

That growth sets the Latin Mass community apart from most Catholic churches in Australia.

Census data shows that while Catholicism is still Australia's largest single Christian denomination, the proportion of Catholics in the population has been falling steadily for decades, and the median age of an Australian Catholic rose from 33 in 1996, to 43 in the 2021 census.

Dr Hodge said there are a handful of theories for why young people might be attracted to the Latin Mass.

 "Young people are forming forms of belief in the modern context which has become very individualised, very fragmented, very difficult to know right from wrong," he explained.

 

Clouds of incense catch the light during Latin Mass at St Aloysius church in Caulfield.

"I think that's the key context: that secular, postmodern fragmenting, and young people are looking for ways to orientate their lives in the midst of that."

"You see it in these forms of traditional Catholic practice which have increased and you'll also see it in forms of Pentecostalism, evangelicalism, and, in its most extreme form, within certain forms of religious extremism or fundamentalism and jihadism."

Note how the theologian brackets traditional Catholic practice with 'fundamentalism and jihadism'. The theologian has his career to think about, under a modernist pontificate which punishes and persecutes traditionalism and ignores or promotes heretics and sex abusers. 

 

Dr Hodge said this trend was causing friction within the Church, particularly as Pope Francis advanced efforts to unify Catholics around the new mass.

Perhaps it's more correct to say that Francis has caused friction within the Church, a friction which if it existed went pretty well unnoticed until he advanced efforts not so much 'to unify Catholics around the new mass (sic)' but to ban Catholics from the "Mass of Ages" (the TLM). 

 

"I think that the real challenge is: how does the Church engage with these communities in a meaningful way that's going to satisfy what they're looking for and without alienating them?" he asked.Young Catholics defy Pope, choose Latin as rift grows in Australia's biggest church - ABC News

 These Latin Mass communities are looking for the Lord, and they will find Him in the Traditional Latin Mass; but Francis and his Prefect of the Dicastery for Divine Worship, Cardinal Arthur Roche (sounds like 'roach) are determined to alienate them from the God they pretend to serve. 


“To the Catholic faithful, who today are scandalized and disoriented by the winds of novelty and the false doctrines that are promoted and imposed by a Hierarchy rebellious against the Divine Master, I ask you to pray and offer your sacrifices and fasts pro libertate et exaltatione Sanctæ Matris Ecclesiæ, so that Holy Mother Church may find Her freedom and triumph with Christ, after this time of passion. May those who have had the Grace of being incorporated into Her in Baptism not abandon their Mother who is today lying prostrate and suffering: tempora bona veniant, pax Christi veniat, regnum Christi veniat”: His Excellency Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano.


Ss Peter and Paul (El Greco)


Saints Peter and Paul, please pray for the Church


42 comments:

  1. Marion Saunders29 June 2024 at 21:57

    I met a man a couple of days ago. A diligent man of Catholic faith. He has ditched the local to travel up to the Latin Mass.

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  2. So how will that help?

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    1. It will certainly help him save his soul, and the souls of all with whom he comes in contact. So it will help the Church and the world.

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    2. Marion Saunders29 June 2024 at 22:01

      Joe Pearson, Archbishop Vigano might be happy. Nothing is going to help this except "My People" humbling themselves and praying and seeking His face.

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    3. The Vatican is being run by the Jesuits and all the other secret societies that assemble there, This is not new The Catholic Church has always been devil worshipers and the people have been deceived. In the Bible Jesus said "Get out of her my people".

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    4. Marion Saunders29 June 2024 at 22:04

      Joe Pearson, first of all we have to get it out if us individually. We have the world system we deserve as allowed by God , the creator. What are your idols?

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    5. Julia du Fresne
      Joe Pearson I'd like to see the references for your claim that 'the Vatican is run by the Jesuits and all the other secret societies that assemble there' and that 'the Catholic Church has always been devil worshipers' (sic). Note that Catholics don't make such wild, unfounded assertions about Protestants.

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    6. Marion Saunders, unlike the Roman Church I don't have any idols, I only have Jesus Christ (The Godhead).

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    7. It's only the fake, antipope Bergoglio and his counterfeit church hierarchy who worship idols. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church has never done so.

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  3. Of course he was a Jesuit old news.

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  4. Bergoglio is still a Jesuit and will stay a Jesuit until the Jesuits get wise to him and expel him from the order, as they did the fiendish Fr Marko Rupnik.

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  5. Felicity Gouws29 June 2024 at 22:22

    The pope is the devil himself.

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    1. I absolutely understand why you and so many others think that. I myself believe he is probably demonically possessed.

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  6. What's a cardinal?

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    1. The cardinals are called princes of the Church, lower only than the pope in the hierarchy. They wear scarlet to witness to their willingness to be martyred for Christ. They elect the pope.

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  7. While I'm no fan of Pope Francis, we've just witnessed a geriatric old man, supposedly the "leader" of the Free World, showing absolute cognitive decline in the first US Presidential debate for all to see and within seconds ALL the left wing media in unison admit that fact. Throw in BRIC's and the wars... it really does feel like we are witnessing the demise of Western civilisation.

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    1. I'm sure you're right, and the parallels between Biden and Bergoglio are remarkable. Both claim to be Catholics, for one thing; both are old men, and it's only a matter of time before the Catholic world gets wise to Antipope Francis and rejects him, just like the Dems will give Biden the push.

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  8. Look at the history of the C C. Christian churches taken over by a Roman emperor Constantine in or around 332 AD amalgamated with the pagan movement (lots of gods) so that they were easier to manage as citizens. The Christians that didn't wish to die joined and the others that never got away were in the theaters. Constantine was a Sun God worshiper, He made himself the Bishop of Rome and a while later THE POPE and hey presto The Catholic and Apostolic Church. He changed the Sabbath Day to The Sun Gods Day (Sunday) the 1st day of the week instead of the Saturday the 7th day of the week. In 1923 The Roman Church made Sunday it's mark,( The Sun Gods Day) Jesus Christ made the 4th commandment "Keep holy the Sabbath Day' He also made a Covenant (which is like a will )and cannot be changed after death. Neither the 10 Commandment or anything that has a Covenant on it can be changed especially by man. The 2nd commandment has been deleted by The Catholic Church, The 4th Commandment has been altered by The C C and the 10th commandment has been split in two to, make up for the deleting of the 2nd. If you read your Bible you will find throughout, it sai's Keep Holy The Sabbath Day and if you fail one Commandment you fail all. The Bible also sai's "Not one Jot or Tittle of the Bible is to be changed. The Sunday excuse for worship is that Jesus was resurrected on that day because Jesus was in the Temple on a Sunday. This happened only once in the Bible and it was because the money of the Temple had to be counted and this couldn't be done on the Sabbath Day. I hope this enlightens you I also was an attender in the Catholic Church.

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  9. Oh dear. You need to study history, not Protestant propaganda. A dollar to a donut that you attended the counterfeit 'Catholic church' (the Novus Ordo). No wonder you fell for heresy: you'd got used to it.

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  10. Most Latin Mass services are bursting at the seams with young people. Just one of many reasons why Bishop Cullinane tried so hard to shut down SSPX in Whanganui and the Latin Mass at Ashhurst.

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    1. To say the Latin mass in ashhurst is bursting at the seams of young people is a gross understatement. I often count very few. You can not include children who are taken there by their parents.

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  11. מרים מארבאלה30 June 2024 at 20:49

    מרים מארבאלה
    Bishop Athanasius Schneider simplified the issue by citing Tradition and Church History in saying that only after a Pope's death may he be tried by a council for heresy or be declared an antipope. This is the way the Church has proceeded from the beginning, and it is how the Church keeps together in times of crisis. Vigano has jumped the gun on Tradition. Read: https://onepeterfive.com/bishop-athanasisus-schneider-on.../

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    1. Curiously +Schneider doesn't mention the case of Clement VII.
      "In 1378, after the election of Pope Urban VI, the majority of Cardinals, Prelates and the people recognized Clement VII as pope, even though he was in reality an antipope. Thirteen out of sixteen cardinals questioned the validity of the election of Pope Urban due to the threat of violence from the Roman people against the Sacred College, and even Urban’s few supporters immediately retracted their election, summoning a new Conclave at Fondi which elected the antipope Clement VII. Even Saint Vincent Ferrer was convinced that Clement was the real pope, while Saint Catherine of Siena sided with Urban" (+Vigano).
      On 29 November 1378, Clement was excommunicated by Pope Urban VI and died in 1394 (Wikipedia). An excommunicated pope is surely, morally at least, an antipope?

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  12. Colleen Synott30 June 2024 at 23:09

    Thank goodness there is someone in the catholic church willing to take a stand for truth
    As a catholic it took me a great deal to wrap my head up the truth of not just the pope but the Vatican
    Any person who does not stand for truth is supporting Satan
    Pope Francis is more EVIL than anyone can actually imagine
    It's now time for truth and love in God's world
    It's time for Satan and all these evil monsters to rot in hell where they belong

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  13. Colleen Synott1 July 2024 at 15:01

    The truth is unfolding at last.
    It's not just catholic either.
    Every religion has been infiltrated.
    The Bible has been manipulated to support this current agenda.

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  14. Robert Patlovany2 July 2024 at 15:19

    John Fisher (c. 19 October 1469 – 22 June 1535) was the last cardinal willing to die to speak the truth to tyrants. The current crop of modernist heretics qualifies as wishy-washy Jesus vomit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fisher

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  15. Francis has always been an antipope, just as his VII predecessor antipopes have been hæretical antipopes.

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  16. The answer is those Cardinals lack Faith & Courage as Yeshua told his Apostles to have. Vigano knows being stripped of an earthly title for standing up for Truth, is worth it. He is warming the flock. Vigano, is a Good Shepherd.🎚️

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    1. It's only in the eyes of the world and Francis church that +Vigano has been stripped of his title. In reality, Antipope Francis lacks the Petrine authority to excommunicate anyone except himself, automatically, which he has done by reason of his heresies.

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  17. Maybe some high rank members of church hierarchy lost or never had the Holy Ghost that descended on the apostles!

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  18. The smoke of satan which sits at Vatican does evil and is scared of TRUTH !

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  19. John Castiello9 July 2024 at 14:48

    But he is but he is!!

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  20. Frank Malpocker9 July 2024 at 14:54

    Now let’s decide on whether the Pope is Catholic?

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    1. I believe it's a mistake to refer to Bergoglio as 'the Pope'.

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  21. Richard Fontana9 July 2024 at 15:00

    Between a rock and a hard place. Two things can be true. When the Pope proclaims Jesus as the Anointed One (Massiah) he is following God's Will. When the Pope interrupts his Will as God's Will he is being used by the Devil. (We are living in troubled times. Ask yourself would Jesus let the Catholic Chruch survive without Peter. If you answered no, then you must accept the Pope. That say Jesus rebuked Peter as the devil when Peter went against God's Will. Peter gained his authority by proclaiming Jesus as the Massiah.) "Nobody's right if everybody's wrong" For What It's Worth by Buffalo Springfield, hits the nail right on the head. Connect you Soul to Jesus, walk in his footsteps.

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    1. The Church has survived antipopes in the past.

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  22. Gilbert A Chavez9 July 2024 at 20:24

    C'mon! Really, who cares? Viganò was okay with Francis until he wasn't! A Novus Ordo girl fight!

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  23. Who cares what Viganó thinks? No man can judge a Pope. Viganó deserves the excommunication.

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    1. +Viganó judges Francis' actions, not Francis himself. God calls all of us to judge whether actions are good, bad or indifferent. It's called discernment and we need it every day of our lives.
      Think of cardinals, bishops and priests - to say nothing of lay people - at the time when Martin Luther sprang into prominence. Had they not exercised discernment, how many more people would have followed him into his man-made church? (Just as Francis is enticing people into his one world church right now.)

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    2. man made Church is exactly what Viganó is doing. He is making a Church without the Pope.

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    3. The Church is already without a pope, and has been since the death of Benedict XVI.

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