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"There is so much over-reaction and differences between parishes in Palmerston North Diocese that it is making the Church look stupid."
Yes. This is a direct result of the NZ Conference of Bishops passing the buck on COVID-related matters to individual dioceses and parishes. So now they're all over the shop. The bishops were asking for it. Many priests and people who subsist on the Novus Ordo diet remind me of small boys in bed at night who close their eyes and pull the blanket up over their heads so they won't see the bogeyman coming.
It's hard to avoid the conclusion that the reason why the Church in Palmerston North looks stupid is that the Church is acting stupid. Palmerston North Massgoer Bruce Tichbon emailed a letter of complaint in regard to the prevailing confusion to all priests in the diocese on Tuesday August 18. So far he's had no response.
Cathedral of the Holy Spirit, Palmerston North (complete with pretend tabernacle)
In his letter Tichbon goes on to say that:
"It also appears to cause many Church officials, despite being well-meant in most cases, to grossly overreach themselves. The total shutting down of Masses, after-Mass functions etc in some parishes is incomprehensible, considering the government guidelines.
Dear Fathers (Tichbon writes),
Looking at the official government guide documents:
"This specifies 1- metre spacing, but only for people who don't know one another.
https://covid19.govt.nz/everyday-life/gatherings-and-events/
"This one includes 'religious services'. There is no 1- metre spacing
requirement but it states, "If you can't maintain physical distance
from people you don't know, you could consider wearing a face covering."
"So these two government instructions are contradictory. Therefore the Church can
use the 'gatherings and events' instruction, and cannot be pinged for not
maintaining 1- meter spacing. Looking around town in shops and restaurants it's obvious that virtually no one else is doing it.
"Parishioners were prevented from entering once there were 100 (plus 20 for the Polynesian choir whose singing was absolutely amazing). My wife was shut out. I argued from inside the church that they could have another 100 in the foyer, which is a separate defined space, but was told by an official person this was not possible. This contradicted the government rules above which say multiple defined spaces of 100 are allowed (at St Mary's separate toilets and kitchen are available in the hall outside if necessary). They eventually relented and let my wife in.
"Our churches would not need to provide additional Masses if they applied the government rules.
"Many rows of pews were blocked off. This appears utterly unnecessary from the government rules for social gatherings (which includes religious services), cited above .
"There was not the usual cup of tea at St Mary's. This appears to ignore the
government rules above, which stipulate no such exclusion. Once it is a
cup of tea session it is definitely a social gathering. If St Mary's had put
100 in the defined area of the foyer there could have been a cup of tea in the
church foyer and another in the church hall for those in the body of the
church, both have kitchens. This would avoid the 2 groups of 100 mixing.
"Communion at St Mary's was distributed to people where they sat. This
measure is not required under government rules.
"There was a children's liturgy (after all, the kids are still going to school during the
week). Note there is no children's liturgy allowed in the parish
detailed below.
"There is so much over-reaction and differences between parishes that it is
making the Church look stupid. It also appears to cause many Church
officials, despite being well meaning in most cases, to grossly overreach
themselves. The total shutting down of Masses, after-Mass functions etc
in some areas is incomprehensible considering the government guidelines.
"Many parishioners are lonely and depressed because of the virus and the Church
and social functions can provide essential socialisation. The Church
taking a 'safety at all costs' approach and grossly over-reacting is
presumptive, because if individual parishioners are that concerned about their
safety they can stay at home, be offered an isolated position at Mass, or
elect not to attend after-Mass social functions.
"Church officials who are exceeding government requirements and denying
parishioners service should justify their actions in detail in terms of
government rules, safety risks, social impact, and Church doctrine.
Overly-fastidious precautions at our churches increases anxiety for many
worshippers. We should be using creative approaches under the current
rules to maximise the worship at our churches, not minimise it.
"I have observed parishioners from the Palmerston North Cathedral of the Holy
Spirit going to a local restaurant after Mass to socialise, and not observing
1- metre spacing there (which they have no obligation to do under this current
Level 2 regime).
"Attending Mass at many of our churches under Level 2 is now more like visiting
a high-security prison. Parishioners can find a far more relaxed and
friendly environment at the restaurant down the road, when without
breaking any government rules, that friendly environment could be provided at
our churches.
"God Bless,
Bruce Tichbon
"For your information, the current Level 2 rules for a parish near Palmerston North.
· No morning teas after Masses or use of the kitchens at all churches
· No meetings using church meeting rooms or foyers
· No children’s liturgy
"I remember when Brian Tamaki of Destiny Church had to take on the government in order to hold a church service with hundreds of parishioners, and won. At the time the Level 2 rules were 10 in a church and 100 in a strip club. Our Catholic leaders now do the opposite, to have even fewer than the government will currently allow.
Corpus Christi, Tynong, Melbourne
Evil pastors are reproved. Christ the true pastor shall come, and gather together his flock from all parts of the earth, and preserve it for ever.
[1] And the word of the Lord came to me, saying: [2] Son of man, prophesy concerning the shepherds of Israel: prophesy, and say to the shepherds: Thus saith the Lord God: Woe to the shepherds of Israel, that fed themselves: should not the flocks be fed by the shepherds? [3] You ate the milk, and you clothed yourselves with the wool, and you killed that which was fat: but my flock you did not feed. [4] The weak you have not strengthened, and that which was sick you have not healed, that which was broken you have not bound up, and that which was driven away you have not brought again, neither have you sought that which was lost: but you ruled over them with rigour, and with a high hand. [5] And my sheep were scattered, because there was no shepherd: and they became the prey of all the beasts of the field, and were scattered.
[2] "Shepherds": That is, princes, magistrates, chief priests, and scribes.
[6] My sheep have wandered in every mountain, and in every high hill: and my flocks were scattered upon the face of the earth, and there was none that sought them, there was none, I say, that sought them. [7] Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: [8] As I live, saith the Lord God, forasmuch as my flocks have been made a spoil, and my sheep are become a prey to all the beasts of the field, because there was no shepherd: for my shepherds did not seek after my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flocks: [9] Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: [10] Thus saith the Lord God: Behold I myself come upon the shepherds, I will require my flock at their hand, and I will cause them to cease from feeding the flock any more, neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more: and I will deliver my flock from their mouth, and it shall no more be meat for them.
[11] For thus saith the Lord God: Behold I myself will seek my sheep, and will visit them.
Philippa O'Neill says:
ReplyDeleteSpot on article. This is what we should be expecting though as the church seeks to destroy itself from within. Pray and stay the course. We will still be here when the worse has been achieved by those wayward leaders. To be fully ecumenical they will destroy the sacraments slowly but surely. You only need to see what is coming out of Rome to know this path is being taken. God bless those great and holy Bishops etc who are speaking out.
Sadly... a spot on observation on how things are going globally and locally. God always preserves a remnant who refuse to bow the knee to Baal in this era Baal being the ecumenical theosophist cult which is emerging.
DeleteBob Gill says:
ReplyDeleteConfusion indeed! In the latest issue of Welcom we have Cardinal Dew saying in one section it’s Communion in the hand only, but in another section it can be given on the tongue to those prepared to come forward at the end of the Communion line! You’d think the instruction given on the Bishops Conference page would be consistent throughout NZ Catholic dioceses and resources.
And what gives with "Communion at St Mary's was distributed to people where they sat.” Where’s the hint of reverence in giving Communion to able-bodied people in a sitting position? Rather like the last time I visited St Mary’s too where Communicants had to remain standing in front of their seats while the priest literally rushed from one to the other irreverently handing out the Hosts: I can imagine how speedily the process was done while everyone was sitting!
I agree: “We should be using creative approaches under the current rules to maximise the worship at our churches, not minimise it.” NZ bishops, unfortunately, seem to be incapable of thinking outside the box throughout the Covid issue – unlike some bishops in other countries.
Anonymous says:
ReplyDeleteI expect that you’re taking a little satisfaction from what seems to be a certain notoriety that your blogspot has been enjoying lately.
Ah well, fair enough.
I say:
ReplyDeleteNot particularly. Being reported to the Electoral Commission has me shaking in my shoes ...
Anonymous says:
ReplyDeleteGood to see at Mass this Sunday a Catholic Church intelligently using the government rules instead of the much more restrictive rules from the bishops limiting masses to 100 people. The parish put 100 in the main body of church, 25 more in the organ area, and had a separate junior liturgy with all the children and their parents, about 25 more. The Eucharist was brought to the different areas. So they managed to cater for 150 in total, and I did not see people turned away like other churches who are adhering to the bishops' Level 2 rules. Praise the Lord!
If you think the church in PN is in a confused state, you should visit Wellington and see how confusion can be eliminated by just cancelling every Saturday vigil and Sunday Mass! even in parishes where at the best of times there are 50 at Mass! No confusion here, just a vacuum where the sacraments used to be. I will continue to be anon bc I am sure your blog is being monitored!
ReplyDeleteI absolutely understand. No names, no pack drill! Glad to have someone on board who can navigate the gmail thing to this blog; it defeats not a few would-be commentators.
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