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The days of the Traditional Latin Mass - the Mass of the Catholic Martyrs and Saints - are numbered. The Antichurch of Antipope Leo will not tolerate the Mass of Ages for much longer, simply because it is the worship of God in truth: it opposes the sham of the new Mass and the new religion of the postconciliar Ape of the Church.
As a permissive act of the divine Will, the eventual (but temporary) banishment of the Old Mass will be A Good Thing. An Excellent Thing actually, for those Catholics who will then be forced to abandon their uncomfortable pozzy of cognitive dissonance, their tame acceptance of the Vatican's pseudo authority which forbids them to practise their faith. Especially will it be Excellent for the conciliar hierarchy who rolled over and wagged their tails when Antipope Jorge Bergoglio issued his diktat Traditionis Custodes. Most of these men are in their declining years with little time left to repent.
It's nothing short of astonishing that almost without exception these princes of the Church acquiesced in Rome's arbitrary confiscation of "the most beautiful thing this side of heaven" (Fr Faber). And what about the faithful Catholics in the pews?They thought that if 'the pope' had done that to the Latin Mass, and cardinals, bishops and priests had said nothing, it must be okay. Just as they'd thought the same about Communion in the hand, Mass versus populum and the other abuses foisted on them by Paul VI's liberal, Freemasonic regime.
| The exception that proves the rule |
So that when the demonstrably heretical 'Pope Francis' heinously abrogated the Mass - the priceless treasure of the Church - Catholics took it lying down. And now Trad Inc tiptoes around Rome, with 'traditional' prelates like Müller and Burke going cap-in-hand to a bunch of heretics for permission to let Catholics be Catholic.
And bishops like William Medley in Kentucky have the preposterous cheek and ignorance to suggest that the Traditional Latin Mass can be replaced by the Latin version of the Novus Ordo. If it weren't blasphemous, one might speak of putting lipstick on a pig. Or recall Marie Antoinette, quoted (falsely) as saying "Let them eat cake". The question now for all Catholics, clerical and lay, to ponder is, which Mass expresses the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic faith of our fathers? The Old Mass, or the New? It can't be both: there is only one truth, and it never changes because if it did it would no longer be truth.
A Pope would discern what's what and rule accordingly. He would either lift all restrictions on the illegally suppressed Old Mass or ban the New. But an antipope does neither. Instead he exhibits the vice of effeminacy so rife in the conciliar cult which often shows itself in liking to be liked. An antipope lets his mouthpieces (like Cardinal Victor Fernandez and the singularly rebarbative Cardinal Arthur Roche) attract the animosity while he charms public sinners, and travels the world politicking and posing for photo opps. He hides behind Roche, who declared on July 28 that “Pope Leo is not going to change Traditionis Custodes, and he’s not going back to Summorum Pontificum. As Prefect for the Dicastery of Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, Roche ought to know what he's talking about.
And the Spanish publication La Razón claims Pope Leo XIV is against the Traditional Latin Mass and that Roche’s January document was written at the Pope’s requestwas written by Roche and the team of his Dicastery at the request of the 'Pontiff', who subsequently reviewed it. ‘Not a single comma was changed.’
- And there's Medley in Kentucky, swopping the TLM for the NO in Latin
- In Charlotte, North Carolina, Bishop Michael Martin has reduced traditional Mass locations; any continuation of the Old Rite will be 'transitional'
- In Detroit, Archbishop Edward Weisenburger announced that permissions for TLMs in parish churches could not be renewed
- In Knoxville, Tennessee, diocesan authorities implemented a transition away from the 1962 Missal and toward celebrations of the Novus Ordo in Latin
The modus operandi in the scenarios quoted above is literally fiendishly cunning: the criterion for permission from Modernist Rome to continue the Traditional Latin Mass is proof that its communities demonstrate a growing adherence to the New Mass. In other words, if Catholicism doesn't auto-destruct it will be destructed anyway. By 'Pope Leo XIV' and his synodal sect.
But Trad Inc still persist in their fond belief that 'Pope Leo XIV' is Catholic and ignoring the enormous, bright pink elephant in the Church that is the new, synodal religion sponsored by the Santa Marta Mafia.
Hope is a beautiful, theological virtue but wishful thinking is no virtue at all. Best let the Antichurch have its wicked way, eradicate the Latin Mass and thus save the "conservatives" in their cosy Ecclesia Dei enclaves from any further sinning against charity by excusing themselves from the fight for Christ and His Church.
"He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth" (Mt 12;30)
Earlier this week, on a podcast with Stephen Kokx, I briefly made a statement which I think might have made some viewers uncomfortable. Not only was there not enough time left to really explore what I meant, but, as usual, my passion trumped my eloquence, and afterwards I wished I had expressed myself better.
Before I continue, I do want to give credit where credit is due by making it clear that it was a post on X (and a short video) by St. AnthonyPadau Radtrad that triggered the train of thought that led to this essay.
We will get back to his post shortly, but as I often have to do at the start of these essays, I want to ask you to make a cup of tea, relax, and hear me out until the end. Please do not read this intro, cuss, and then unsubscribe or jump into the comment section scolding me.
Despite the headline, I want to make it clear that I do not have some sadistic desire for good, decent Catholic folk who are doing their best to practice their faith to be deprived of the Traditional Latin Mass they attend, if they are even lucky enough to have one to attend.
I have always appreciated that my readership includes a broad spectrum of held beliefs and convictions: from those who still attend the Novus Ordo, to those who attend indult Masses, former Ecclesia Dei communities, SSPX, SSPX-Resistance, sedeprivationist communities, and finally even hardcore home-alone sedevacantists.
I have always held the sincere belief that the majority of my readership shares a love of Christ and the Catholic Faith and are all trying their best to defend the rights of Christ and His Church.
But these are terrible times we find ourselves in, where Catholicism has literally been criminalized by the usurping heresiarchy in Rome, and everyone is doing the best with where they are at, both geographically and spiritually. Therefore, please, if you do attend an FSSP TLM or a diocesan Latin Mass, do not think that I want you to find yourself out in the liturgical cold. I realize all too well that if what I am about to discuss happens, then many will have no Traditional Mass to go to.
That being said, the other side should also be considered very carefully: eventually, they are going to completely halt all access to the TLM within the Synodal Church, that is certain. It is not ‘if’, but ‘when’. So, instead of getting angry at me, maybe it is time to make peace with this looming reality, if you have not yet, and prudently make decisions accordingly.
Now though, I appeal to your charity and patience to hear me out.
On July 31, the above-mentioned X user posted the following short message:
“I am ready for the Novus Ordo to close down their Latin Masses. It will force the indults to accept their own religion.”
At first glance, this might seem harsh, but the more I thought about it, the truer it rang. Again, if you are one of those who recognize that the Synodal Church and its hierarchy are not Catholic but still have to attend a Synodally-sanctioned TLM because you see no other way, this essay is not about you. Although, as I already said, best you start preparing for the inevitable coming ban on the TLM.
Who this essay is for, though, or maybe about, are those who, on the one hand, want to recognize the heretical popes and their sodomy-promoting, idol-worshipping, communism-advancing false Synodal religion, while at the same time also want to not only indulge in their fantasies of being “Traditional” Catholics, but also want to gaslight, discredit, ostracize, persecute, and mock real Catholics who had to make costly decisions and sacrifices to say, sorry, but we cannot be part of the Synodal Church and its false religion; we want to be Catholics in the Catholic Church. Who had to say: “Go ahead and excommunicate us from your fake and gay “church”, we choose Christ and Catholicism”.
It is because of these people’s luxurious hypocrisy that I thus say: the Synodal Church must outlaw the TLM sooner rather than later. Not only that, it must “excommunicate” any synodal priest or synodal layperson who dares to say the Traditional Latin Mass or attend it anywhere. Harsh? Here is why.
For decades now, the permission from the apostate heretics in the Vatican for diocesan TLM communities and the former Ecclesia Dei institutes to exist has worsened the crisis and, in effect, paralyzed many Catholics with confusion, because it was seen as “proof” that the postconciliar “Church” still has room for Catholic Tradition. (Read this last sentence again. If something must make “room for Catholic Tradition”, it means it itself is not Catholic, but something new and different!)
On the one hand, the laity got comfortable with the idea that they had to ask “permission” from heretics to be Catholic, and, on the other, it emboldened Trad. Inc.-type influencers, fence-sitting clergy, and “conservative” prelates like Burke and Müller to not address the root problem, but rather pontificate from their hypocritical high horses.
Admittedly, these communities do serve as some kind of refuge for those who find themselves in the apocalyptic wasteland that is Synodality, but the price for these pockets of pretention is extremely high. It means avoiding the questions at the heart of the Great Deception: if the Synodal trash heap masquerading as the Catholic Church truly believes that Vatican II represents the authentic and irreversible direction of Catholicism, then why should it continue to preserve islands of resistance within its own structures?
If Vatican II truly was a genuine development in Catholicism, then surely the TLM belongs to the past? But if the TLM expresses the perennial faith handed down for almost two millennia, then surely it cannot be treated as a mere tolerated exception?
The Traditional Latin Mass cannot be both the historic expression of the Roman Church and a privilege granted at the discretion of apostate bishops and infiltrators in the Vatican. One of these views must give way.
If the preconciliar Church taught one thing, and the postconciliar church taught a contradicting one, they cannot both be the Catholic Church.
If A equals X, and B equals Y, then A cannot be equal to B. It is not hard to understand. Yet that is exactly the sorcery the Synodal Church has been imposing on the faithful who would rather attend these little “permission” Masses than face the difficult truth.
The postconciliar hierarchy has repeatedly insisted that the Council cannot be questioned, as recently as during the SSPX debacle, and that its reforms are here to stay. This would mean that this new anti-Catholic religion, with its new liturgy, ecumenism, heretical religious liberty, and the new pastoral approach of demonic relativism, is as legitimate an expression of Catholicism as the religion to which St. Pius X or St. Alphonsus Liguori adhered. The Synodal hierarchy has been remarkably consistent in defending the Council as the defining event of “modern Catholicism.”
By allowing these communities to exist as long as they accept the false authority of the Synodal Church, Rome has not only caused great dissonance and confusion but capitalized on it: in this “abusive relationship,” the victim - the laity - is granted some traditional optics in exchange for obedience to a new religion that wants to destroy Catholicism and usher in the Antichrist.
Due to this arrangement of compromise, we today have a large group of confused Catholics who identify as “Traditional” while remaining comfortably within the structures of the postconciliar harlot.
Do many sincerely believe that they are preserving the faith of their fathers while remaining obedient sons and daughters of the Church? Absolutely. They criticize the collapse of Catholic culture, lament doctrinal confusion, oppose many modern theological trends, and speak warmly of the Church before the Council, but continue to recognize the authority of the men responsible for governing the very institution that has been demolishing Catholicism for 60-odd years.
This is not only an unsustainable situation but also an unacceptable one.
If they recognize that the religion issuing from Vatican II contradicts previous Catholic doctrine, then why continue to lend legitimacy to it by obeying the usurpers and infiltrators who are the architects of this synodal beast?
On the other hand, if you recognize this as the legitimate Catholic Church, stop criticizing its hierarchy, reforms, new anti-Catholic doctrines, heterodoxy, and new liturgy, and submit yourself totally to it.
The continued existence of officially recognized Traditional Latin Mass communities is only worsening this dilemma by providing a false middle ground that softens the force of the underlying questions. Catholics who are caught in this erroneously think they have found a stable balance between fidelity to the past and obedience in the present. This mentality tragically makes them complicit in the war on Catholicism and Catholics.
Because of this compromise, the uncomfortable questions can always be postponed because the “old” Mass is still available somewhere, somehow, never mind the fact that you have to swear fealty to a false religion to get your permission slip to attend.
As long as that remains true, many will never examine the real problem: that the Synodal Church should be fled from, and that they will eventually go down with the ship at the expense of their souls.
This brings us to the other, dangerous part of the problem: those like Trad. Inc. and the conservative Synodal apologist who, with great sanctimonious smugness, want to straddle both Catholicism and the Synodal religion while calling the shots.
If the TLM is finally completely erased in the Synodal Abomination, it will be like the opening of a festering, pus-filled sore. These peddlers of compromise and hypocrisy will then have to choose. Their masks will necessarily have to come off. Either they choose the Synodal Church, all its doctrines of devils, its anti-popes, and its Neo-Protestant liturgy, or they fully reject it and throw their weight in with those fighting for Christ, Catholicism, and the Catholic Church.
| but Latin is not their reason for abolishing the TLM; it's the Catholic faith |
This will not be comfortable, but at least it will force Catholics to get serious about their faith again. Catholicism will then once again become something costly and precious. It will become the guiding principle around which Catholics will organize their lives, and not a religion of convenience and the least resistance.
The compromise, though, cannot continue, as it only postpones the conflict without resolving it.
Removing “permitted” Traditional Latin Masses from the equation will end the lunacy of having a group who have been able to criticize the postconciliar crisis while remaining within the institutions they believe produced it. This will force them to either denounce the modernist religion or recognize the authority of those who introduced it, but not both.
Holy Scripture warns us “to hold fast to the traditions that have been handed down” and rightly asks, “what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever?” It also instructs us to choose between “life and death, blessing and cursing.”
The time has come to choose unequivocally between the Catholic Church and the false Synodal imitation. To choose between loyalty to the postconciliar ecclesiastical order or the Catholic tradition and truth they failed to preserve.
To choose to stop being lukewarm and double-minded, lest you be spat out of His mouth.
Our Lady, Co-redemptrix, pray for us…
Our Lady, Mediatrix of all Graces, pray for us…
Viva Christo Rey! https://radicalfidelity.substack.com/p/why-the-synodal-church-should-completely
| Christ heals the deaf mute El Greco "And looking up to heaven, he groaned, and said to him: Ephpheta, which is, Be thou opened."(Mk7:34) |
ReplyDeleteAmen long live the SSPX! We will survive and remain faithful
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Pssst... I don't think you understand, but you've been placed in timeout.
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But Julia why do you get so worked up about this? All the things you right about were man made. The mass was a male church creation. It has nothing to do with Chris and it is certain he would by mystified by it. It is simply a great theatrical confection made to confounded the masses
DeleteRussell Armitage Those who work for the Devil, will get Burned.
Russell Armitage the Church was founded by Jesus Christ, Second Person of the Triune Deity. It is thereby both a divine and a human institution.
DeleteThe Mass is an unbloody re-presentation of the Sacrifice of the Son of God on Calvary for the salvation of all mankind - for you and for me, to open the gates of Heaven which had been closed by the sin of Adam and Eve.
Every single time the Mass is said validly, anywhere in the world, Christ dies for you and me once more.
I get worked up about the Mass because it's the only means by which you and I can gain eternal happiness. As opposed to eternal suffering.
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Just commenting on your first paragraph. Pope Leo seems very familiar with the Latin Mass. I have seen him celebrate it online and his pronunciation is flawless and his awareness is such that he must be a regular practitioner. Why do you think that the days are numbered for the TLM? If it is because of the SSPX then your reasoning is not correct. The Latin Mass flourishing outside of the SSPX but we also must conclude that it will only be another form of the Mass and not the main way to celebrate it.
The most clear way to see that this is the Will of God is by Jesus’ very words. ‘The gates of hell will never prevail against the Church.’
And also, ‘Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.
If the removing of the Latin Mass in general for the past 60 years is against God’s Will don’t you think, when considering His words above He would have intervened?
You should let it all go. God’s ways are not man’s ways.
Que Sera sera… whatever will be, will be.
DeleteMark Gasparini Robert Prevost likes to be liked. To be all things to all people. That's why he knows the Latin Mass and celebrates it nicely.
The SSPX are certainly part of the equation. They were falsely 'excommunicated' in a vain attempt by Rome to stop the haemorrhage of faithful Catholics to the Society. Tragically, that manoeuvre has partly succeeded, due to 'conservative Catholics' trashing the SSPX as lepers because that's the way the synodal NO sect has treated them, for years.
I recommend Michael Davies' Mass Trilogy on Liturgical Revolution (highly readable), to explain how the Novus Ordo is a fabrication (to quote Pope Benedict XIV) which has been proved by the stats to be slow suicide for the Catholic Church.
The gates of hell have not prevailed against the Church. They cannot. But they will prevail eventually against the Vatican's counterfeit, synodal Ape of the Church.
God did not intervene in the Arian crisis. He raised up the great St Athanasius to intervene and He needs great saints again now, in a crisis even worse.
ReplyDeleteIn the book CATHOLIC PROPHECY by Ives Dupont, published in 1970, the issue of the split over Latin vs English, et.al. was identified as eventually causing a major split in the CATHOLIC CHURCH.
ReplyDeleteMore anti-Catholic gobbledygook from a clearly former Catholic. For those tempted to believe these fetid rantings, the traditional liturgy has NOT been abrogated. I have just attended, as I have the grace to do virtually every day, a Mass celebrated by a priest in good standing according to the 1962 Missal. And just along the road, another group of Catholics were attending another Mass celebrated according to the 1969 Missal. No drama, no polemics, just two churches full of faithful Catholics fulfilling their Sunday obligation. Nor is there the least indication that the 1962 Missal is being abrogated. Indeed, in March this year, Pope Leo (who is as much an “anti-pope” as I am) encouraged the French bishops to be generous in their pastoral provision for those attached to the traditional liturgy. The author naturally fails to mention this as, in my experience of her undisciplined posts. she’s never one to let the truth get in the way of a good story. But, regrettably, it is extremists like her who give the rest of us attached to the traditional liturgy a bad name - and rightly so. What she spouts has nothing - nothing at all - to do with authentic Catholic tradition or indeed the joy of the gospel of Christ.
John Power thank you for so clearly illustrating the fantasies of Trad Inc.
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DeleteJohn Power I think a lot of those that came to the faith under summorum pontificum have taken Cardinal Roches words to heart...where he claimed an abrogation existed by the proclamation of he new mass of paul vi. Its something others very very closed to the Pope have used ( wisenberger also used abrogation so has tobin, cupich). So with the nulling of summorum pontificum we have a continued abrogation...and a temporary ( wisenberger, cupich and at hundred appointments of Francis and Leo have said) concession...with a raft of conditions....eg must be functionally remote, at an inconvenient time and kept all hush hush like it was a crime of the century like we know about their former masters and confidants, mccarrick, bernardin and Rupnik
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ReplyDeleteThe lengthy post presents nothing. In simple words, fancy word bs is still bs. So let’s get to the root. Those who disregard the authority of the Pope are forfeiting their Catholic faith. The post sounds like a 12 year old railing against any authority but their own. The Latin Mass issue is an ignorant pretext.
1. The Mass was not celebrated in Latin until at least 400 A.D. and therefore not traditional.
2. The Bishops of the early Church encouraged the use of local language.
3. The Bible was originally written in Greek and Christ spoke Aramaic.
Grow up!
DeleteBob Sheehan so for 1600 years it was in Latin.
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Are you doubting the authority of the popes to change the liturgy?
Sam Handwich when other popes have said it is unchangeable, yes.
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You need to come to the truth. NO pope can bind the hands of any future popes. All popes are the supreme authority of the Church while they serve. To say that a particular pope can bind their successors, would negate the total authority that the office of pope has as its charism.
Sam Handwich there are limits to papal authority, you know. A pope may not change the Mass in opposition to the Divine Law. As Benedict XIV has said (as Cardinal Ratzinger) "the pope is not an absolute monarch whose will is law; rather, he is guardian of the AUTHENTIC TRADITION and therefore, the premier guarantor of obedience" (emphasis mine).
DeleteThe pope is bound by both the Divine Positive Law and the natural law. He cannot do as he likes.
ReplyDeleteBob Sheehan Grow Up? You ever hear of the seven virtues? Humility escapes you as you argue chicken and egg chronology when the basic issue is division versus unity.
DeleteLatin was the language of the Mass universally for 1600 years until Vatican 2. It was the language used in Catholic seminaries to teach philosophy and theological courses until Vatican 2. “Grow up”? Well, I have. Needed to know it as an altar boy 70 plus years ago, and hated it as a seminarian, as a subject and trying to understand my philosophy profs who were teaching with it. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Not a clue.
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The lengthy post presents nothing. In simple words, fancy word bs is still bs. So let’s get to the root. Those who disregard the authority of the Pope are forfeiting their Catholic faith. The post sounds like a 12 year old railing against any authority but their own. The Latin Mass issue is an ignorant pretext.
1. The Mass was not celebrated in Latin until at least 400 A.D. and therefore not traditional.
2. The Bishops of the early Church encouraged the use of local language.
3. The Bible was originally written in Greek and Christ spoke Aramaic.
Grow up!
DeleteBob Sheehan so for 1600 years it was in Latin.
DeleteSara Vee
Are you doubting the authority of the popes to change the liturgy?
DeleteSam Handwich when other popes have said it is unchangeable, yes
DeleteSara Vee
You need to come to the truth. NO pope can bind the hands of any future popes. All popes are the supreme authority of the Church while they serve. To say that a particular pope can bind their successors, would negate the total authority that the office of pope has as its charism.
DeleteSam Handwich there are limits to papal authority, you know. A pope may not change the Mass in opposition to the Divine Law. As Benedict XIV has said (as Cardinal Ratzinger) "the pope is not an absolute monarch whose will is law; rather, he is guardian of the AUTHENTIC TRADITION and therefore, the premier guarantor of obedience" (emphasis mine).
The pope is bound by both the Divine Positive Law and the natural law. He cannot do as he likes.
DeleteSam Handwich your view presents an image of the church where each pope can greatly change the church during their pontificate. I am sure this was not Jesus' plan!
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ReplyDeleteNone of this is Biblical. Just Catholic dogma.
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Praise God. Pope Leo is a good man and faithful to the tradition of the Church, including the new order if the mass and the synodal way. Walking and listening to the wisdom of the entire Church, walking together in harmony with each other and members of other faith traditions.
Praise God for such a beautiful humble man, like Francis before him. May the Church continue to grow on love and respect for each other, and may the Holy Spirit be outpoured anew, upon the faithful.
Come Holy Spirit, come into our hearts, our minds and our souls.
Thank you Jesus for your Love for us.
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Why is Cdl. Burke reminding me of Jim Jones telling his followers at their compound in Guyana to stay put and drink the cyanide spiked kool-aid? How is this not the spiritual murder of souls?
Keep calm and go to the SSPX!
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DeleteDaria Demkovich I did!!!!
DeleteNo longer care what Leo does, or doesn’t want. I joined SSPX and very glad I did!
DeleteSandra Golemb You will have inner peace.
DeletePaul Mary Onyia I do.
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Sandra Golemb welcome!
ReplyDeleteA few days ago, Cardinal Arthur Roche expressed what he believed Pope Leo would likely do regarding the Traditional Latin Mass. That was his assessment during an interview. It was not an official act of Pope Leo.
Yet this John Henry Westen now presents it as though it is already a settled fact, confidently telling thousands of Catholics that Pope Leo approved a document supporting Latin Mass restrictions. Fine
There is a world of difference between a cardinal expressing his expectation and the Pope officially approving something. Those two things are not the same.
Please be careful with pages like this. Read beyond the headline. Verify the facts. Do not allow anyone to stir you into anger against the Pope or the Church before the facts are clear.
As Catholics, we should love the truth too much to be manipulated by sensational headlines.
Be wise...do not be deceived
MEMENTO MORI💀
DeletePio Val Billionz Cardinal Arthur Roche is Prefect of the Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. He is officially the spokesperson for the pope in such matters. 'Sensational' it may be but that is the fact.
ReplyDeleteHow Long oh Lord…..how Long must we suffer and wait for the warning!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhy do you ignore your most vocal loyalists & befriend your most hateful adversaries!
So sad!
So wrong!
ReplyDeleteThis worm must be dealt with
DeleteCarmen Destefano Do you know that Leo prostrated in prayer before the Pachamama and now is installed in the Vatican?
DeleteJoEllen McMahon yes
ReplyDeleteOnly what is rotten will fall never to rise again. And that’s not the TLM.
ReplyDeleteIt is all but declared. Francis and Leo are destroying Our Catholic Church
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The devil is in the last two popes.
ReplyDeleteLeo and Francis are the fulfillment of Mary’s 3rd secret. That within the Church there would be horrible turmoil!
ReplyDeleteIT'S TIME TO PICK A SIDE. THE MASS OF ALL AGES AND THE CHURCH BUILT BY CHRIST....OR A church CHRIST WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE ..MORE PROTESTANT OR WORSE, THAN CATHOLIC.
ReplyDeleteI live in Detroit and have not heard that permission will not be renewed
Jeanne Barrett https://domvsdei.com/.../liturgical.../detroit-restrictions/
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satan is in full control of rome....believe in God...verify ALL other's, especially those who claim to be in charge
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ReplyDeleteThat’s means an end to 1962 missal, however this document not shown appears not to show the earlier Latin Mass before 1962. The Mass pope Pius V, said that Mass was forever. PAX
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.pillarcatholic.com/.../is-pope-leo.... Please pray for Julia du Fresne
ReplyDeleteMathew 12:30 doesn't apply to the Traditional Latin because our loving Father didn't reject anybody
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There will ALWAYS be a TLM, for it is THERE and THAT, what Christ spoke of when he said, "The gates of HELL shall not prevail."
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You can not burried the TLM thats already been existed for thousands years ago..
ReplyDeleteThe Tridentine Mass was adopted in 1570. That makes it younger than the Protestant church, the Anglican church, and younger than Florida.
Alexander Liptak I was loving your answer until "younger than Florida" at which point I was "OMG he's right!"
DeleteI absolutely was never expecting that!
ReplyDeleteHe's a sorry excuse for The Vicar of Christ, imo.
DeleteExcellent ! That says it all.
ReplyDeleteInsane splitting the Catholic Church over Latin Mass. Now we have our second leftist Pope.
ReplyDeleteNone of this is Biblical. Just Catholic dogma.
DeleteRon Kidwell your interpretation of the Bible
ReplyDeleteWhat do we do now. Where to go if the FFSP closes
DeleteMimi Baldwin that's the $64,000 question. We must pray for divine guidance.
DeleteIt depends on your beliefs. Do you believe in Catholic Tradition, or do you believe the teachings can change with time?
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God save the soul of pope leo, as he is selling out Your Church
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ReplyDeleteFollowing Francis woke agenda thought Leo would be better just same as tories and Labour all singing from same book to destroy ? I say this as a practicing catholic 🙏🏻✝️🇬🇧🏴✝️love the catholic faith ✝️
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Satanic synodal Roman Vatican Masonic sect led by the mafia of San Gallo which is no longer in any way the church of Christ
ReplyDeleteThe argument of your post and circulating here collapses under the weight of actual history, basic ecclesiology, and the public record. The Roman Catholic Church has never taught that the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) is the “only true Mass,” nor that post‑conciliar popes are “antipopes.” These claims simply don’t align with facts.
First, the TLM has never been abolished. Even Traditionis Custodes (2021) did not suppress it; it regulated its use under diocesan authority. Pope Benedict XVI’s Summorum Pontificum (2007) expanded access, but it did not declare the 1962 Missal superior or more “true.” The Church has always held that both forms are valid, because validity rests on apostolic authority, not aesthetics or preference.
Second, the idea that recent popes are “heretical” or “Freemasonic” is not supported by any magisterial document, council decree, or historical record. These accusations echo fringe movements that have been repeatedly rejected by the Church, most clearly in the 1998 CDF document Ad Tuendam Fidem, which reaffirmed that papal legitimacy is not determined by liturgical taste.
Third, the narrative ignores the actual timeline of liturgical reform. The Novus Ordo was promulgated in 1969 after the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), approved by the world’s bishops and implemented globally. It is not a “new religion”; it is the ordinary form of the Roman Rite. The TLM continued in limited use through the 1970s and 1980s, with formal permissions granted in 1984 (Quattuor Abhinc Annos) and expanded in 1988 (Ecclesia Dei). This is a documented, orderly process, not a conspiracy.
Fourth, the claim that bishops are “destroying Catholicism” by regulating TLM locations misrepresents their actual responsibility. Under canon law (Canon 838), diocesan bishops are the moderators of the liturgy, responsible for unity in worship. Their recent decisions, in Detroit, Charlotte, Knoxville, and elsewhere, are administrative responses to Vatican directives, not theological betrayals.
Finally, the argument that “only one Mass expresses the true faith” contradicts the Church’s own teaching. The Council of Trent (1545–1563) affirmed that the Church has authority over liturgical discipline, and that rites can legitimately develop. Truth does not depend on a particular century’s rubrics.
In short, the stance being promoted here is not supported by Church history, magisterial documents, or the actual timeline of liturgical governance. Catholics can love the TLM without rewriting history or delegitimising the Church’s authority. The facts simply point in a different direction. This is full of deception and untruth from a spirit of bitterness and division. Repent. “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” (Matthew 7:18).
I also appreciate you will not accept any of this, because to post an argument like this indicates traditionalism has blinded and deafened you to the true message of Catholicism and Christ.
“Seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, neither do they understand.”
(Matthew 13:13)
“If the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
(Matthew 15:14)