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Read about Father Robert Prevost ('Pope Leo XIV') worshipping the pagan goddess Pachamama in 1995, and be HORRIFIED.
Read about his Augustinian Creed, proclaiming that his order "believe[s] in God Father and Mother of Life", and be ASTONISHED.
Read that Cardinal Giovanni Batista has told Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò "We must obey the Pope even if the Pope does not obey the Lord," and be ENRAGED.
Horror, astonishment and rage would be typical of any 'good Catholic' to this week's news, wouldn't it? But no: no more than it was to Jorge Bergoglio aka 'Pope Francis' processing the Pachamama into St Peter's Basilica, onto THE ALTAR during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
Told that Fr Robert Prevost knelt before the Pachamama idol in 1995, a Marist priest actually laughed. As for the Catholic commentariat, Trad Inc. was mostly muted. Dr Taylor Marshall couched his "the Roman cardinals have elected an idolater and a synchretist to the papacy" as a possibility. For heaven's sake, there's no doubt about this.
Kennedy Hall said Leo was "following JPII's example" (a reference to Pope John Paul II's much-publicised kissing of the Q'ran). 'Joan of Arc' on X was 'disappointed'. But Antony Stine nailed it. It was "an act of apostasy".
As a public mortal sin committed by a priest, it certainly was. Stine cited two moral theologians who specify that active participation in a Pachamama rite is ‘intrinsically and gravely evil.’ Prevost might have repented but if he has, he's morally obliged to announce that publicly.
Why are Trad Inc., by and large, pretending this monstrous scandal hasn't happened? The conservative instinct cannot come to grips with it. Seems as if the spirit of the conciliar, synodal, post-Bergoglian cult has infected the entire Church, just as the 4th-century Arian heresy did. It's the Novus Ordo effect.
ReplyDeleteMost Sacred Heart Of Jesus have Mercy on us.........
ReplyDeleteBorgolio had done so much damage it’s beyond comprehension!
DeletePrevost continues his work decimating the flock and razing the Church. If anything, Prevost is more dangerous because he doesn’t smell like goats.
ReplyDeleteIF he did. How do we know that is him? I certainly cannot tell, even with a magnifying glass. It is not worth the chance of slander unless there is concrete proof. 🥺
IF he did not, why has he not publicly denied this? He's had plenty of opportunity to do so.
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ReplyDeleteIdolatry, pagan worship, attacks against the priesthood, apostasy, etc., these are antithetical to membership in the Holy Catholic Church; much more so are they utterly incompatible with the Office of Peter.
Forget being the Roman Pontiff! Jorge Bergoglio does not qualify as even the lowest member of the Catholic Church, not according to my own definition, but according to the bimillennial teaching of the sacred magisterium as repeated by Pope Pius XII, who stated:
Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith … The cooperation of all its members must also be externally manifest through their profession of the same faith and their sharing the same sacred rites, through participation in the same Sacrifice, and the practical observance of the same laws. (cf Mystici Corporis)
Pope Pius XII also reiterated the faith of the Church when he stated that “heresy and apostasy of their own nature sever a man from the Body of the Church.” (ibid.)
DeleteLeo Horvat thank you. If I used the title 'Pontiff' I should also have used scorn quote marks. Bergoglio was not, and neither is Leo, a member of the Church.
ReplyDeleteWhy? Because Jesus promised us that not even the gates of hell will prevail against His Church. Because he COULD not have been elected Pope unless God Himself willed it. Because Christ said that He desires Mercy. Because Christ Himself gave the Eucharist to Judas, kissed his cheek and said to do what he must.
We are not to judge this man today. We are not God. His mind is not ours. Now, for God’s sake, have some respect for the Mystery of the Church and stop this nonsense
DeleteGerry Morrison the undeniable reality of a bad pope (or two or three) or of the See of Peter being vacant is no indication that the gates of hell are prevailing. There have been several bad popes and 30-40 antipopes - who were 'elected' according to God's permissive will, not His perfect will.
I am not judging 'this man'; I am judging his DEED of worship on his knees of a pagan idol. To break the First Commandment is a serious sin, and this was done in public with the blessing of the Augustinian order. Prevost must publicly repent.
DeleteJulia du Fresne do you publicly repent? I thought that confession was protected??
ReplyDeleteGerry Morrison "Declare your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may find healing." –James 5:16. By confessing our sins to a representative of the Church and of the Lord (see Jn 20:21-23; see also Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1455-1456), we can confess our sins publicly, avoid giving scandal, and receive the special healing which usually accompanies public confession..
In this case, Prevost has already given monstrous scandal, which makes his public repentance even more imperative.
DeleteJulia du Fresne IN CONFESSION!!! Are you for real?
DeleteGerry Morrison In confession privately to a priest and also publicly, to the world, in reparation for the monstrous scandal he has caused.
If I were you, the author of this blog, I would be shivering in my shoes because one day you will be judged for leading souls astray, and for the calumny of and disrespect you have shown to the Holy Father. People of your ilk are really engaged in trying to destroy the Church. You will never succeed but you will be responsible for those who leave the Church because of this blog and your writing. You need to repent, confess and do penance before it is too late for you. Your judgment could be in an hour, a day, a week or a month but it will come as surely as the Son rose from the dead. God will not be mocked.
ReplyDelete"But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you" (Mt 5:44).
DeleteIt's just disappointing that I can't pray for you by name.
And again:
"Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"(Mt 5:10).
And:
"Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake: Be glad and rejoice for your reward is very great in heaven" (Mt 5:11, 12).
Thank you, and may God bless you.
You clearly have no self awareness of what you are doing. You think you're being persecuted because people don't agree with the way sedes like you are trying to destroy the Church. No way do you count among the blessed. You are doing the work of the devil and I pray that you will wake up to what you are doing before it is too late for you. Our Lord said it would be better if a millstone was hung around the neck of people like you who are leading the faithful astray and that you be thrown into the sea.
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ReplyDeleteJulia du Fresne Not a good comparison between death of Thomas Beckett and death of soul because of heresy. Just came into my mind, King Henry II did public penance for the murder of Abp Beckett though he did not directly order it. https://ckhh.org.uk/.../A_Henry-II-Penance-St-Dunstans...
DeleteAll he needs is public repentance and denouncing what he did, the Pachamama worship. Just wondering, who did the Pachamama worship first, current pope or Pope Francis.
DeleteNini Rico Vicary You do NOT know his heart. You tread seriously close to dangerous territory for your soul. Please stop and pray. NOT with your predisposed thoughts. Just sit QUITELY so that you may listen to Him. Invoke the Holy Spirit to let you know HIS truth. Just try.
DeleteNini Rico Vicary WHAT IN THE WORLD? You are really sad. Just sorry.
DeleteGerry Morrison God gave all the cardinals and us too, free will and that is one thing God will not take from us. Those cardinals during that conclave, how many were( still are ) heretics or worse who voted for the current "pope"?
DeleteNini Rico Vicary How many of us are sinners? Let he among you without sin be the first to cast a stone!! I mean seriously....do you NOT think it possible that Jesus, via the Holy Spirit, inspired and chose this Pope for HIS reasons, inspite of his sins? The Pope is NOT sinless!!
DeleteGerry Morrison, Nini Rico Vicary is not casting a stone at Leo, but at his deed. We must learn to discriminate between deeds and the doers of those deeds, and judge the deed, not the doer.
And how could it be possible for Jesus to choose an apostate, as Robert Prevost is now proven to be by his public worship of a pagan goddess, as head of His Mystical Body?
ReplyDeleteAs of today NovusOrdo TRAD INCORPORATED remain silent! They don't want to wake up and SMELL THE COFFEE! They have to realize that LACK OF SERIOUS BIBLE STUDY is the cause of the Panchama Incan idols worship, heterodox Fiducia Suplicans lqbtxyz "blessings" edict.....etc.
From the perspective of Catholic moral theology and canon law your public claims—that Pope Leo is an “anti-pope” who “worshipped Pachamama” (equating it to Satan/idolatry and using 1995 photos of a ritual to declare him an idolater who “illegally occupied the Church” alongside Francis)—constitutes several grave sins.
ReplyDeleteThese are not minor disagreements or private opinions; they are public, repeated accusations aimed at undermining the visible unity of the Church and the pope’s authority. Here is the breakdown, drawn directly from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) and the Code of Canon Law:
Schism (a grave sin that incurs automatic excommunication, Canon 1364 §1).
Canon 751 defines schism as “the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.” By repeatedly placing “Pope Leo” in scare quotes, calling prior popes “Antipope,” and stating that he and Francis “illegally occupied the Church for 60 years,” du Fresne explicitly rejects the current pope’s legitimacy and the validity of his election. This is the hallmark of the sedevacantist position, which the Church has long treated as schismatic. It is not “just an opinion”—it severs communion with the pope the Church recognizes as Vicar of Christ.
Calumny (a sin against the 8th Commandment, CCC 2479, 2477).
Calumny is lying about another person in order to harm their reputation. Even if Fr. Prevost (now Leo XIV) did kneel during an “ecotheology” symposium ritual in 1995 (a fact under debate, with some defenders calling it misrepresented interreligious or cultural participation rather than “worship”), du Fresne’s framing goes far beyond the evidence: she calls Pachamama a “bloodthirsty demon goddess… almost certainly Satan himself,” labels the act “idolatry” and “apostasy,” and weaponizes it to prove he is not the pope. If any part of that characterization is knowingly exaggerated or false in context, it is calumny. Quoting moral theologians who call such participation “intrinsically and gravely evil” does not license her to leap to “anti-pope” and public condemnation of the Vicar of Christ.
Scandal (CCC 2284–2287).
ReplyDeleteScandal is leading another into sin or spiritual harm. By publishing these claims on her widely read blog (Canto Fermo) and social media, and urging readers to be “HORRIFIED,” “ASTONISHED,” and “ENRAGED,” du Fresne is actively sowing doubt in the minds of the faithful about the pope’s validity, the Church’s indefectibility, and the sacraments offered under his authority. This can drive people into schism, despair, or loss of faith—precisely the definition of scandal. The Church has historically condemned public attacks on the pope as gravely scandalous.
Rash judgment and detraction (CCC 2477–2478) as aggravating factors.
Even if she sincerely believes the photos prove idolatry, publicly declaring a man an idolater, heretic, and anti-pope without due process, full context, or ecclesiastical judgment is rash judgment. If the ritual participation is true but she reveals it in a way calculated to destroy his standing as pope (rather than for fraternal correction through proper channels), it becomes detraction.
These are mortal sins if committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent, as they attack the unity of the Church (a matter of divine law) and the good name of the Successor of Peter. The Church has always taught that the pope, even when personally sinful, remains the visible head until death or valid resignation; private individuals do not get to depose him by blog post or label him “anti-pope.” Traditional Catholic moralists (and popes such as Pius IX, St. Pius X, and later documents) have consistently condemned this kind of public rebellion as schismatic.
Du Fresne is free to criticize specific acts, policies, or even (in private theological debate) express doubt—but publicly declaring the recognized pope an idolater and anti-pope crosses into schism and calumny. Whether she has incurred the canonical penalty of excommunication is ultimately for Church authorities to judge, but the objective gravity of the acts is clear in Catholic teaching.
ReplyDeleteIt's high time a priest took you to task for your actions because you seem incapable of recognising or being aware of the serious sins you are committing. No way you should be receiving Communion after the stuff you have written on this blog. Your confession is long over due. For he that eatheth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the Body of the Lord. (1 Cor 11:27–29)
"Du Fresne is free to criticize specific acts, policies, or even (in private theological debate) express doubt—but publicly declaring the recognized pope an idolater and anti-pope crosses into schism and calumny. Whether she has incurred the canonical penalty of excommunication is ultimately for Church authorities to judge, but the objective gravity of the acts is clear in Catholic teaching."
DeleteNo, Prevost was publicly worshipping the Pachamama, during an OALA organized symposium, after which the OALA (Organización de Agustinos de Latino América), the Organization of Augustinians of Latin America published a book about it. Pointing this out is not schismatic, nor is declaring Prevost/Leo an Idolater, it's pointing out what all can see him do. Trying to cover up or pretend that everything is fine would make a person an accomplice after the fact.
It is not schismatic to believe, on reasonable evidence, that a person claiming to be the pope (or holding any office in the church) is an Antipope. This book, and photos of Prevost/Leo in 1995 and the Vatican-published photos of Francis ordering the Pachamama/idol to be placed on the Altar in St Peter's during a Mass that he was celebrating, (in Oct 2019), are more than enough evidence.
Book title: Ecoteología: Una Perspectiva desde San Agustín
Compiler: Juan J. Lydon, OSA
Year of publication: 1996
Location of publisher: Quito, Ecuador
No, the then Fr Prevost was not publicly worshipping Pachamama. The image, which stems from an Augustinian symposium on theology and ecology, shows participants kneeling and later lying on the ground. While the event has been described in some accounts as a "Pachamama rite," investigation of the photos and additional video indicates that the objects present include a dark bottle containing liquid and a ciborium (a vessel used in Catholic worship), not a Pachamama statue or figure. Therefore you and the author of this blog stating that Fr Prevost is an idolator are commiting calumny, which is a mortal sin. And in stating that Pope Leo is an antipope puts the author of this blog into the state of being a schismatic.
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