Thursday, 5 June 2025

WHERE'S FRANCIS? IN HEAVEN - OR WHAT?

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Pope Leo XIV prays at the tomb of 'Pope Francis'



'Pope Francis' "accompanies us and prays for the Church from Heaven". To millions of faithful Catholics, that seemed a strange thing for Pope Leo XIV to say. Francis isn't canonised - yet - and millions of Catholics believe he was either an apostate, an heretic, a schismatic or an unbeliever or all the above. In which case, St Thomas Aquinas, the "Angelic Doctor" tells us in Summa Theologica not to pray for his soul because our prayer would not profit him.https://catholicus.eu/en/should-we-pray-for-all-the-dead-st-thomas-aquinas-clarifies-only-for-the-faithful-not-heretics-and-apostates/


Presumably the Holy Father knows something we don't. Maybe +Leo had a vision of Francis enjoying celestial bliss. Or maybe he knows that he confessed all his sins, repented and received an Apostolic Pardon which would have remitted all temporal punishment due to those sins. An Apostolic Pardon may be given any Catholic dying in a state of grace, so surely a pope - even a faux pope - would obtain it. The moral of the story for all Catholics being, make sure you get one! But there's a catch: the requirement that all attachment to sin, even venial, be absent.


And as the war in Ukraine escalates, Pope Leo has asked Vladimir Putin, in their first phone call, for a "gesture" for peace. That ball is surely in the Pope's court: the best gesture for peace would be a proper Consecration of Russia, at last, to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. 



"The Vatican, as represented by the Pope, is very interested in hosting negotiations" - President Trump



 


Where is Pope Francis? 


It seems a decision has been made among many outlets of the Catholic commentariat to remain, for the time being, uncritical of the new pope, Leo XIV. Undoubtedly, this approach is the right one, as everyone should proceed in good will, hoping that with Prevost’s election will come a new chapter after the unhappy decade or so of Francis’s pontifical reign.

 

But, troublingly, for the third time since his pontificate began only a short while ago, Pope Leo XIV has declared that the soul of Pope Francis is in Heaven.

 

Most recently, Pope Leo asserted this to be the case via an official Pontifex ‘tweet’ on the social media platform X, which stated that Francis had “returned to the Father’s house. He accompanies us and prays for the Church from Heaven.”

 

But this eccentric habit of declaring, outside any official canonisation process, that, as it were, no such process is needed, is deeply problematic. It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the faithful of the Catholic Church are being prepared for this highly controversial figure (who, as one journalist friend put it to me, “lingered over the Church for twelve years as if he were an enormous dark cloud”) to be canonised soon, as if it were inevitable and unavoidable.

 

There are several very serious problems with Leo repeatedly stating that Francis is in Heaven. For one, such statements cause the faithful to doubt the gravity of Francis’s public sins. These sins are not inconsiderable, given that they include idol-worship (Pachamama), the suppression of an ancient apostolic rite of the Church, syncretism and religious relativism, the protection and promotion of predators and deviants, the abuse of the Church’s law, the teaching of heresy, etc.

 

Who knows if Francis was a heretic, but it’s clear that he was heretical. The distinction being that the former would have required him to be publicly accused of heresy and for him in response to have held obstinately to his heresies. Given that he customarily refused to meet with those who raised objections to his teaching or manner of governing, we were not given the opportunity to witness any obstinate attachment to heresy.

 

But in any case, the record is not good. If such sins can be committed and the perpetrator still immediately enjoys the beatific vision upon his death, then the message to the faithful is clear: either these sins were not even as grave as our ancient faith would have led us to believe, or they are not sins at all.

 

Perhaps people will not be led to such erroneous conclusions, but then the remaining alternative is that, despite the Church’s age-old teaching to the contrary, Purgatory does not really exist. If such sins can be committed without any need for purgation from the guilt entailed by them, then Purgatory must not be in fact necessary. Thus, again, if the faith is to remain intact among the faithful, Leo’s habit of declaring Francis’s heavenly status is far from desirable.

 

Such declarations by Leo, moreover, discourage the faithful of the Church from exercising charity. Whatever our view of Francis, he was a baptised member of the Church and thus a brother in Christ who may now stand very much in need of our prayers.


However: St Thomas Aquinas, in Summa Theologica, states that we should not pray for "unbelievers, heretics, schismatics or apostates". Not all souls can be aided by our prayer.  "we ought not to pray for unbelievers and unrepentant sinners, because such prayer would not profit them" (Summa Theologica, Supplement, q. 71, a. 5. Prayer presupposes a communion in faith. Those who die wilfully separating themselves from the Church are not disposed to receive the spiritual fruits of our prayers.


For if his sins are as grave as the ancient faith would lead us to believe, even if he made a perfect act of contrition prior to his death and made a good confession, his soul will remain in Purgatory for a very, very long time. Those who wish to participate in God’s mercy upon Francis’s soul, and therefore to say prayers and do acts of penance for his benefit, may be dissuaded from doing so by the reigning pope’s repeated statements.


Or by the teaching of St Thomas Aquinas, the "Angelic Doctor". 

 

But there is another reason why Leo is, in fact, playing with fire. It has not gone unnoticed among many of the Church’s faithful that, of late, canonisations have been co-opted as an instrument in what has for decades been the dominant ecclesiastical regime. Instrumentalising such holy things, besides being sacrilegious, is a very foolish thing to do. Ultimately, it does not serve to strengthen the regime, as intended, but only to undermine that which is instrumentalised.

 

It should not surprise us, then, that many theologians have begun to question the infallibility of canonisations. Increasingly, theologians have argued that the conditions of canonisation posed by Thomas Aquinas are either no longer in place or have been dramatically warped.

 

And the modern practice of popes to waive the remaining ordinarily required canonisation conditions due to personal whim or preference has not helped the situation.The instrumentalization of canonizations has, thus, only weakened devotion to the saints and damaged the credibility of the Church’s judgment in such matters.

 

Increasingly, it is felt among the practising faithful that canonisations have little to do with the Church’s response to an organically emerging devotion to a particular deceased holy person, and everything to do with whatever consolidates the dominant ecclesiastical regime, helping to impose and enforce its ideological commitments.

 

A case in point is that of Saint Philomena. Few saints have enjoyed such popular veneration in modern times. Soon after her remains were discovered in the catacombs in 1802, many amazing things began to surround the growing interest in who she was and what her role in the early Church could have been.

 

Miraculous healings, weeping statues, and the visions of ecstatic seers all contributed to the massive cultus that erupted, with everyone from the reigning pope to the poor parish priest of Ars, John Vianney, spreading devotion to this early martyr who had refused to breach her vow of chastity even for an Emperor.

 

But then, under Pope Paul VI, her name was removed from liturgical calendars. Devotion to this powerful intercessor was incompatible, it seems, with the new rationalistic and naturalistic regime that Pope Paul introduced. That the faithful had such a deep and sincere devotion to Philomena – a sign, according to Church tradition, that the sensus fidelium was manifesting itself – meant nothing to the new experts whom Pope Paul had raised up to lofty offices from which to experiment upon the Lord’s faithful.

 

Proof, indeed, that canonizations seem to have little to do with the Church’s response to an organically emerging devotion is offered by the subsequent canonisation by Pope Francis of Pope Paul VI.

 

 

Pope Paul VI



The fact is, almost no one likes Pope Paul VI. He was a sulky, bourgeois social climber with a snobbish liking for connoisseurs and academics, who presided over the most destructive period in the Church’s history, leading to a great exodus from the pews and the universal collapse of priestly vocations.

 

Really, again, no one likes him: traditionally minded Catholics never forgave him for suppressing the ancient liturgy and gutting the Church of her ancient traditions, and progressively minded Catholics never forgave him for giving the thumbs down to contraceptives.

 

The only people who didn’t really mind him – yet certainly did not pray to him or venerate him – were the ecclesiastical neo-conservatives. But their position as a faction in the post-conciliar Church was made practically impossible by the reign of Pope Francis, given that it then became just too difficult and embarrassing to keep arguing that the post-conciliar papacy was in perfect continuity with the pre-conciliar papacy.

 

The canonisation of Paul VI happened for one reason only, and that was to send a message to the faithful that if they think Vatican II was a disaster then, well, tough luck, because “there’s no going back.”

 

But that message only works if the Church’s faithful take these modern canonisations seriously, and of course increasingly they do not, precisely for this very reason: they lose their power with their misuse. Canonisations are now widely understood as just another weapon in the armoury of an ecclesiastical regime whose ambition it is to mix the Church’s roles with an affirmation of secular, atheistic modernity.

 

If the Church continues to struggle for survival under such a regime, that regime’s ultimate collapse will make the Church’s presence almost undetectable in the world. Consequently, there’s no way out of the new, anti-traditional Church except that of repudiating the whole modern experiment and once more taking up the mission, under the ministerial care of the Paraclete, to make disciples of all nations, thereby rescuing them from the unconverted world which is, I wish to emphasise, the principality of Satan.

 

Since Cardinal Prevost ascended to the Chair of Peter, there have been some promising signs that have given me and other traditional Catholics reasons for hope. But he must stop the nonsense.

 

He should stop saying that Francis is in Heaven. It is possible that Francis’s soul is neither in Heaven nor Purgatory. It is possible that Francis’s soul is in Purgatory, in which case, if you feel so inspired to do so, it would be laudable to pray for him.


Except for the fact of St Thomas Aquinas' teaching.

 

It is time to stop these games now and to reconcile the Church with her tradition, and that will require a lot more honesty about who the bad guys were, and are, to this day.

 

It is almost unthinkable – if the tradition of the Church on matters of idolatry, abuse of law, corruption of holy offices, etc. etc., is taken seriously – that Francis is now in Heaven. Saying that he is there is quite obviously done for ideological reasons, to resurrect the mythology of post-conciliar continuity that duped so many Catholics for so long, and has so profoundly contributed to the mass apostasy of the faithful over the past half-century or so.

 

It is time to stop these games now and to reconcile the Church with her tradition, and that will require a lot more honesty about who the bad guys were, and are, to this day. https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2025/05/26/where-is-pope-francis/?

 


Ascension Fresco, Rome

 

O Lord, ascended into Heaven, have mercy on us 

32 comments:

  1. John A Phillips6 June 2025 at 00:42


    I’m just going to presume that Pope Leo knows a lot of things that we don’t.

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    1. John A Phillips I am sure that he does.

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    2. John A Phillips fair enough.

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  2. Kimberly Gruyere6 June 2025 at 00:44


    Pope Leo is showing grace

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  3. Anne Donaldson6 June 2025 at 00:45


    Please Pope Leo Consecrate Russia to the Virgin Mary as she asked at Fatima and has not been properly done Mary our Mother pray for Russia to be consecrated to you that Russia may bring Peace x

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    1. Deborah M Brown6 June 2025 at 00:46

      https://www.ncregister.com/.../john-paul-ii-s... - seems it's been done in 1984.

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    2. The Consecration in 1984 did do some good. The Iron Curtain fell . But it was not what Our Lady requested. According to Sister Lucia, Russia and only Russia must be mentioned by name . Also all the bishops of the world must participate by direct order of the Pope. This did not happen in 1984. We as lay people must do our part by making reparation to the Immaculate Heart of Mary through the First Saturday devotion which was also requested by Our Lady at Fatima.
      Go to Fatima.org for more information.

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  4. Deborah M Brown6 June 2025 at 00:48


    Or he's doing what many people do when someone close to them passes away, presume they're in heaven (whether they are or not). I wouldn't read too much into that comment.

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    1. Deborah M Brown yes, it's natural for people to indulge in wishful thinking. But it's unnatural for a pope, and especially to do it publicly and repeatedly. Did you click on the link and read the post?

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    2. Deborah M Brown6 June 2025 at 15:19


      Julia du Fresne I did not. Was going to but was at work. Pope is still human and was JUST elected. Maybe he’s not quite acclimated to the role.

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  5. A private revelation at Best and NO catholic is required to believe. Is Jorge in the smoking or non smoking section of free mason heaven???

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  6. We pray for Pope Leo, as we prayed for Pope Francis and pray now for Francis’ soul.
    But we can’t ignore the fact that Pope Leo benefitted immensely from his relationship with Pope Francis - he gained considerable power and prestige in the Church Hierarchy directly due to appointments made by Pope Francis.
    So, while we pray for Pope Leo’s fidelity to Jesus, we have to wonder if he will be swayed away by fidelity to his predecessor.

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  7. Greg Moulaison6 June 2025 at 00:56


    What do “ YOU” call a proper consecration? It has been accompanied many times by Popes, including St. John Paul II.

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    1. Greg Moulaison Heaven’s King and Queen have insisted that it is Russia (and Russia only) that is to be the object of this public act of obedience and prayer. In addition, Our Lord and Our Lady have indicated that the Holy Father is to be joined in the act of consecration by all the Catholic bishops of the world on the same day and at the same time in their respective dioceses. Interestingly, only Pope Pius XII’s consecration of the world in 1942 included substantial involvement of the bishops. Sister Lucy has written that this imperfect act of obedience, while not fulfilling Our Lady’s Fatima request, nevertheless hastened the end of the Second World War, thus sparing the lives of tens of millions of souls.https://fatima.org/the-consecration-of-russia/

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  8. Priscilla Laliberte6 June 2025 at 01:01


    This has been my prayer and rosary intention every day since he first became our Pope. Will he finally be the one to do it as Our Lady asked? Time is running out. God Bless Leo XIV.

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  9. Well said!! If the Queen of heaven said "Get Russia consecrated" , it would be the first thing I would do as Pope...so whats stopping them?

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  10. I think it is dangerous to neglect the “influence” that the Pope is under. I would think he battles hard against it, but it is amazingly strong. God allows some of that to sharpen his warrior stance, to enable him to see what his struggle is against. Certainly principalities and powers, but he is surrounded by human agents attempting to subjugate him and continue the nightmare of the previous pontificate. We need to pray fervently for him in his efforts, and for the Church, Our Lord’s Mystical Body. 🤔

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  11. Zaida Pastrycreations6 June 2025 at 01:04


    Praying daily for the consecration of Russia.

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  12. Laura Brockway6 June 2025 at 01:04


    This is a really BIG problem. Good grief.

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    1. Laura Brockway Yeah I don’t understand that one

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    2. Chris Waloven neither do I. Did you both click on the link and read the article from the Catholic Thing?

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  13. Cristina Zamora Gildore6 June 2025 at 01:08


    Amen

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  14. Yes, that’s a huge presumption and it increases my concerns about Leo X IV. How could a man who has dismantled and destroyed so much of Christ’s Church be in Heaven? It continues the current myth that everyone goes to Heaven.
    Have you seen this video? It is purely someone’s private revelation but it rings true…
    Bing Videos (YouTube: First few moments of the pope in hell)
    There are so many doubts about Leo. He has been the closest collaborator with Bergoglio for the last ten years. So… is he about to complete the course set by him? It was a very swift conclave, so was it predetermined?
    Have you heard of Leo Lyons Zagami, a man who has been involved with the NWO and the freemasons and now has written 12 volumes on what he learnt. He claims to know exactly what lies ahead.
    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=681cf97a22a2c8ae0e09b5d0
    And the Mission of Divine Mercy in San Antonio Texas has a Sister Amapola who has received words from Heaven for 20 years but in recent times has been instructed to make her messages public. This has raised the ire of her local bishop who has seized the Mission’s property and is put its leader Father John Mary on “schism trial” for publicising the messages which speak of a usurping of the Chair of St Peter….
    Be on Guard-Remain with Me (afterthewarning.com)
    Because Leo XIV presents so well, not so obviously as Bergoglio, there should be concern for a greater deception! And this moment of optimism may be false hope when we consider that Leo has confirmed the appointment of a Bishop in Gallen Switzerland who welcomes women priests, the appointment of a new leader of the Pontifical Academy for Life who has favoured contraception, and the fact there has been no change in the witch-hunt of Traditional Latin Mass communities.
    One of our priests told us that if Synodality continues, run for your life!

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  15. Yes, that’s a huge presumption and it increases my concerns about Leo X IV. How could a man who has dismantled and destroyed so much of Christ’s Church be in Heaven? It continues the current myth that everyone goes to Heaven.
    Have you seen this video? It is purely someone’s private revelation but it rings true…
    Bing Videos (YouTube: First few moments of the pope in hell)
    There are so many doubts about Leo. He has been the closest collaborator with Bergoglio for the last ten years. So… is he about to complete the course set by him? It was a very swift conclave, so was it predetermined?
    Have you heard of Leo Lyons Zagami, a man who has been involved with the NWO and the freemasons and now has written 12 volumes on what he learnt. He claims to know exactly what lies ahead.
    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=681cf97a22a2c8ae0e09b5d0
    And the Mission of Divine Mercy in San Antonio Texas has a Sister Amapola who has received words from Heaven for 20 years but in recent times has been instructed to make her messages public. This has raised the ire of her local bishop who has seized the Mission’s property and is put its leader Father John Mary on “schism trial” for publicising the messages which speak of a usurping of the Chair of St Peter….
    Be on Guard-Remain with Me (afterthewarning.com)
    Because Leo XIV presents so well, not so obviously as Bergoglio, there should be concern for a greater deception! And this moment of optimism may be false hope when we consider that Leo has confirmed the appointment of a Bishop in Gallen Switzerland who welcomes women priests, the appointment of a new leader of the Pontifical Academy for Life who has favoured contraception, and the fact there has been no change in the witch-hunt of Traditional Latin Mass communities.
    One of our priests told us that if Synodality continues, run for your life!

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    1. The new leader of the Pontifical Academy for Life also favours euthanasia if my memory serves me well

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  16. A very powerful weapon of Freemas0nry, together with the various groups of the superrich such as the Bildeb*rger group, in controlling and manipulating the people is SECULAR FEMINISM, which in many ways, has succeeded in putting aside the man as the protector of the family, the Church and society. As God made us, men tend to reason with their INTELLECT and LOGIC whereas women tend to reason with the HEART. Thus women are more susceptible and influenced by nice sounding words and less inclined to distinguish between good fruits and bad fruits, between fruits that lead to the true and lasting good of people or to harming people and even leading people away from God and toward hell. Thus the superrich have spent tremendous amounts of money, that they covertly stole from us, to promote secular feminism, the so-called, nice-sounding, “women’s liberation”, so that it becomes much more difficult for the general public to discover the truth of how we are being SWINDLED and even BRAINWASHED and led to where we do not want to go!!! “Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2Cor 11:14). Just as we have been brainwashed to seek to be liberated from God and to believe that God is not love but evil, and to believe that God gave us the Ten Commandments for our harm and not for our good, so too, women have been brainwashed to seek to be liberated from men who by the design of God, if they pray, protect their wives, families and society, which today is greatly lacking! It is amazing today how Satan, using his very numerous puppets and the motors of the culture (mass media, schools, religious institutions), have overturned the truth so as to convince the great majority that God is bad and Satan is good. In Sacred Scripture we find that GOD loves his creatures immensely and is the “Prince of Peace” (Is 9:6), whereas SATAN, who rebelled against God and who hates us and wants our total destruction is “the father of lies” (Jn 8:44) and “the prince of the world” (Jn 12:31; 14:30; Rev 12:9)! “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil” (Is 5:20).

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  17. Studies have shown that women are MORE EASILY MANIPULATED by the highly controlled mainstream media than men since women are more worried about human respect and being out of step with others. Even in the Catholic Church, secular feminism is at least just as widespread and strong. Women are presented in the mainstream media as the points of reference for guidance and leadership instead of the man as it was in the past from Biblical and Christian tradition.
    “THE HEART IS DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL THINGS, AND DESPERATELY CORRUPT; who can understand it?” (Jer 17:9; Jms 1:26; Heb 3:10; Ps 95:10). This is one of the reasons why Divine Revelation tells us that the husband is the head of the family and the wife is the heart of the family. This is also the reason why Freemas0nry promotes secular feminism so as to overturn God’s perfect design and to obscure the real strategy and goal of the superrich of the world.
    Freemas0nry has worked hard to promote “POLITICAL CORRECTNESS”. “Political correctness”, of course, is established by Freemasonry which controls the mainstream media. Under the guise of equal rights and false prejudice, has confused and destroyed the God-given roles of men and women for healthy families and a healthy society. Freemas0nry, guided by its hidden master, Satan, knows the power of subconscious suggestion and highly sophisticated manipulation by the mainstream media to reverse the God-given roles of men and women and to put the woman as the head and point of reference on TV shows, newscasts and movies. Today it is very politically incorrect to point this out, and even seen as prejudice and bigotry. People say this is not important, but it is a very important priority of Freemas0nry and the superrich to promote secular feminism. Do we think we are intelligent and Satan is stupid? Unfortunately a great number of women very easily drank this devastating poison of secular feminism which satisfies ones pride, which is the fundamental temptation that Satan offers us.

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  18. The NEWSCASTER is supposed to ask questions to bring out what he or she wants to bring out. The man, by nature, will bring out possible dangers to the family and the society. Behold the astuteness of the freemas0ns.
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  19. Absolutely Russia should be #1on the Agenda for the Pope.
    Why didn't he do it on Day 2 of his apostolate, while he had all the Cardinals and Bishops of the world at his fingertips?
    There would be no more war in Ukraine if he had done that!
    Oh, I guess that wouldn't be good for business though, would it Vladomir Zelenski?

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  20. Bergoglio is surely in hell because of his heresy and apostasy.

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