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You've all seen the pic of that cheeky blighter Potus Donald J Trump posing as the next pope. It's brought left-leaning TDS suffferers out in a rash so even though Novus Ordo-ites aren't likely to read this blog, it's not shown here. But the same day Washington State's Governor signed into law a bill requiring that Catholic priests violate the seal of the confessional.
Unlike Trump, that's serious. Deadly serious. Priests who break the seal of the confessional are excommunicated and if unrepentant they incur eternity in hell. The same goes for faux Catholic, Democrat Governor Bob Ferguson - who boasts of an uncle, a Jesuit priest (go on, laugh). The law is intended to expose pedophiles who confess their sin but this is not the way to do it.
It makes a very persuasive argument for returning to pre-Vatican II-style confessions, still a la mode in Latin Mass parishes which preserve the Catholic faith in its pristine integrity. The penitent is unknown to the priest so Father can hardly dob him in.
This law is an ass and likely to be overturned by the Supreme Court. If not, it will result in new martyrs for Christ. If lions and crucifixions and Henry VIII couldn't break the seal of the confessional and the priesthood, neither will the threat of jail.
Ferguson the beta with the noddies who watched him sign
Democrats have a thing against the First Amendment, particularly freedom of religion, because for them, the state is the religion.
That's why we saw outrageous acts during the Biden administration, with Joe Biden suing the Little Sisters of the Poor to pay for abortions against their faith, Orthodox Jews harassed to get vaccinated for COVID against their faith, and Amish farmers raided for producing raw milk, which is part of their faith of living simply.
It also explains why 2024 Democrat presidential candidate Kamala Harris could blithely tell a television interviewer that she was against conscience exemptions for doctors and nurses in performing abortions, whether it went against their faith or not.
So it should come as no surprise that they have come up with this idiocy for Catholics, targeting what is said in the confession as subject to reporting to the 'authorities.'
According to the National Catholic Register:
Washington Gov. Bob Ferguson on Friday signed a controversial state law that requires priests to report child abuse to authorities even if they learn of it during the sacrament of confession.
The measure, introduced in the state legislature earlier this year, adds clergy to the list of mandatory abuse reporters in the state, but doesn't include an exemption for information learned in the confessional.
A 2023 version of the proposal had offered an exemption for abuse allegations learned “solely as a result of a confession.” The latest bill does not contain such a carve-out, and in fact explicitly notes that clergy do not qualify for a “privileged communication” exemption.
Ferguson told reporters that as a Catholic he was “very familiar” with the sacrament of confession. “[I] felt this was important legislation,” he said on Friday.
What goes on there is sacred -- holy, untouchable. It's literally a sacrament. It has been thus for thousands of years. To force a priest to notify authorities of a confession of child abuse, when he may not even know who is confessing is not only probably impossible, but an outrageous violation of religious freedom and the First Amendment.
Any priest who does that is automatically excommunicated according to Church law. Priests have died martyrs for refusing to break the seal of confession. And the priests in this state have said they will go to jail over this.
And the premise? Child abuse. Seems that justifies anything against the Catholic Church, (while public school teachers who much more likely to engage in such behavior have their own seal of something other than confession -- they can't be fired). Like Joe Biden, the guv is claiming he's a good Catholic. He doesn't know the first thing about it.
According to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops website:
No matter the circumstances, when people confess their sins to a priest, they are coming to Jesus to say, “I am sorry for what I have done. I want your grace to heal me and change me, so that I can follow you more closely.” This is a sacred encounter between the penitent and the Lord who offers forgiveness and healing.
the right way to confess |
But what happens when a priest hearing a confession learns information that would be useful to civil authorities in resolving a crime?
The Code of Canon Law forbids priests from divulging information received in confession. The penalty for a priest who directly violates the seal of confession is excommunication.
Suppose a thief repented of his sin and confessed his robbery to his priest. Ought the priest be required to testify in court against the thief? Indeed, this very situation gave rise to an important religious liberty case in 1813, People v. Philips, during the early days of the American republic.
For most of us, if we had knowledge related to a crime, we would be obligated to share that information with the proper authorities. If you are called upon to serve as a witness in a trial, you must speak forthrightly about what you know of the crime.
In New York, Fr. Anthony Kohlmann learned in the confessional the identity of two people who had stolen jewelry. After the penitents handed the stolen goods over to him, Fr. Kohlmann returned the jewelry to its rightful owner, and the robbery victim offered to withdraw his complaint.
However, the thieves were later apprehended on other evidence, and as part of the trial, Fr. Kohlmann was called as a witness to share how he knew where the jewelry was. Fr. Kohlmann refused to share this information, because he would not betray his priestly duty to maintain the seal of confession.
While he would gladly testify had he come by the knowledge in some other way, to reveal a penitent’s confession would be to violate his faith. He asked for an exemption.
He won that case, and over at the civil rights division of the Department of Justice, deputy attorney general Harmeet Dhillon has said she is looking into the matter as a violation of civil rights of freedom of religion.
Here's what typically happens if someone comes looking for forgiveness by confessing to a priest a horrendous crime: The priest tells the person that in order to receive forgiveness, he needs to turn himself into the authorities.
I know of one case where that happened in 1984, after a murder in Orinda, California by a high school girl named Bernadette Protti, who confessed to killing her more popular classmate Kirsten Costas with a kitchen knife out of apparent jealousy. I don't see it mentioned in Wikipedia, but I recall reading it in the San Francisco Chronicle around the time she was apprehended.
The act in Washington is an outrageous violation of religious freedom and will serve to turn priests into agents of the state, which sounds a lot like the set-up in China, whose version of the Catholic Church is run by the communist state.
Thanks to Antipope Francis, the disgraced Cardinal Theodore McCarrick - and papabile Cardinal Pietro Parolin.
During the Soviet era, the Russian Orthodox Church became a corrupted state zombie, too, with KGB agents taking on the role of confessor priests and bishops, the better to extract confessions and surveillance for their state purposes. It was terrible, traumatic, and to this day, much of Russia remains in loathing of all religion as a result.
I suspect this law will not survive judicial appeal by the Church and the DoJ, which can clearly see the violation of the First Amendment and the essential threat to freedom of religion.
But this will not stop Democrats from trying to coopt the Church for their own purposes. If they succeed in this, they will move on to confessions of 'political crimes' and probably start bugging confessionals, too.
This is an entire area that is off limits to them, except that it isn't. They mean to take over the Church for their own purposes, making church and state inseparable, and heaven help us if they succeed.https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/05/wokester_law_in_washington_state_requires_priests_to_break_the_seal_of_confession.html
The Pakeha Protest
ReplyDeleteAs a Christian, which Catholics are not but let's say they are for this comment, we do understand that walking a righteous life is the idea and that if you break the law you will be handed over to the Police. Confessing you stole from a grocery store to eat is not the same as I raped a little boy so it's up to the decision of the Priest as to whether he should report the incident. So I agree with the bill.
The Pakeha Protest be careful - your anti-Catholicism is showing. It's hardly Christian to assert, without citing evidence, that others are not.
DeleteAnd it is absolutely not 'up to the decision of the Priest'. It is the decision of Jesus Christ Himself, Who instituted the Sacrament of Penance, that its seal must be inviolate.
ReplyDeleteThe Pakeha Protest his only source is to deny absolution until they voluntarily hand themselves in.
DeleteBrad Clifton The priest cannot make absolution conditional upon a criminal turning himself in. To wit: “I won’t give you absolution unless you turn yourself in.”
However, a priest can withhold absolution if he does not believe, on a firm grounding, that the penitent is truly sorry.
Hence, a priest can strongly urge, firmly counsel, warmly encourage a penitent to “do the right thing”, that is, conform his amended life to the dictates of justice. However, if he has a moral certainty that the penitent is penitent and intends to amend his life, he should not withhold absolution.
The priest has to advise the penitent to do the right thing. He can urge the person to turn herself in, but he can’t impose that as a condition of being absolved.
ReplyDeleteIf it goes through, we shall see which Preist has a career and which actually have a God given Vocation. 🤔
ReplyDeleteBeats me how you can be a professional bastard sinning all your rotten life and with your last dying breath confess and you're a great guy and go to heaven!
And Catholics should be worthy of respect?
Greg Rasmusen there's Purgatory to be reckoned with. If you are the person you describe but genuinely repent and confess with your last breath, you will be detained in the suffering of Purgatory until your sins are completely purged.
DeletePurgatory is this prison of fire meant to cleanse and purify souls from the stain of sin and is needed to achieve the level of holiness and purity necessitated for admittance into the Kingdom of God.
The great doctors of the Church have observed – ‘One minute in this awful fire seems like a century.’ St Thomas Aquinas says that the fire of Purgatory is equal in intensity to the fire of Hell and that the slightest contact with it is more dreadful than all the possible sufferings of the Earth."
ReplyDeleteEspecially where paedophilia and other sex crimes are concerned. That sort of thing will be confessed in the confessional and stay in the confessional for obvious reasons. Move on to the lay Church big wigs, the ones who fill the collection plate, they won't be outed for anything. This is giving the church a legal power as if the church cannot be corrupted. We know it is corrupt.
ReplyDeleteGail Oats is that the royal 'we' you employ? Or the Protestant, atheist, nihilist 'we'?
The One, Holy, Catholic Apostolic Church is incorruptible and indefectible, because it is divine - the Bride of Christ.
The Church is also human, and humanity is corrupt, but its 2000+ year history is full of popes, bishops and priests who have been outed for corruption.
Julia du Fresne How does any of that relate to the government in America removing the legal sanctity of the confessional and expecting anything to change? Paedophilia, child abuse, sex crimes are proven to be an unbroken thread weaving it's way through the Roman Catholic church for a lot longer than there has been a democracy in the U.S. Ergo, to expect the confessional to change is unrealistic. And the Catholuc church like any outfit, religious or otherwise is always going to look after the money.
DeleteGail Oats it relates to the confessional Sacrament of the Church in America, which is the same Sacrament of the Church the world over.
Delete'Paedophilia, child abuse, sex crimes are proven to be an unbroken thread weaving it's (sic) way through' every human institution. Statistically, secular organisations and other denominations are more prone to sex abuse than the Catholic Church but the media, prompted by Satan himself, target the Eucharist.
I agree, it's very unrealistic to expect the Sacrament of Penance to change. It can't and it won't.
And I agree also that the Catholic Church 'is always going to look after the money'. That's called stewardship.
ReplyDeleteGod is going to destroy Washington state as well as California New York and Chicago.. don't be in the liberal places because as this soldier knows it is a "kill zone".. Sodom and gomorrah which has been found and as the Bible says exactly how it happened, it was done! May the priests stand their ground and get arrested before they bow to liberal lukewarmness God himself will pour His wrath on soon..
ReplyDeleteI couldn't decide which emoji to use so I'll say...Applause, applause to Julia du Fresne! You are exactly correct.