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What's the betting that Robert Prevost, aka 'Pope Leo XIV' will never proclaim a dogma - a truth revealed by God, proposed by the Church and to be believed by every Catholic? Faithful Catholics thanked God that in spite of his verbal diarrhea Jorge Bergoglio, aka 'Pope Francis', never did; and because the Mystical Body of Christ is indefectible, an informed guess says that neither will Prevost.
"Oh but," you say, "Pope Leo is universally, peacefully accepted by the Church. Just like Pope Francis." Yes, we heard that claimed about Bergoglio ad nauseam. "So Pope Leo could proclaim dogma and it would be infallible." No. Not necessarily.
For one thing, the papacy is bestowed not by cardinals but by Christ. Christ being Truth Itself cannot bestow the papacy on a man uncanonically elected, and the legality of the conclave that elected Prevost is questionable, to say the least. And for another thing, "Universal Peaceful Acceptance (UPA) is not a rule of faith. Bergoglio's multiple heresies were living proof that UPA is a myth, and Prevost's flirtations with LGBTQ ideologists such as transvestites and sodomites bid unfair to prove it all over again.
No matter how many bishops roll over and stay shtum, any papal pretender's lies (like the DDF's Note denying that Mary is Co-Redemptrix) are still lies. But Christ will always protect His Church by denying those lies the cloak of infallibility which can be worn only by solemn, ex cathedra definition.
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From the formidable Chris Jackson at Hiareth in Exile:
Why “Universal Peaceful Acceptance” Can’t Save the Conciliar Church
Why “everyone agrees he’s pope” was never the Catholic rule of faith – and how that myth now props up a church that blesses sin and rewrites its own past.
If you’ve spent any time arguing with the new papalist influencers, you know the script.
“Leo XIV was universally accepted by the bishops. Paul VI was universally accepted. John Paul II, Benedict, Francis, Leo – all universally accepted. Therefore it is infallibly certain they were and are true popes.
Therefore anything they teach cannot truly contradict the pre-conciliar magisterium. Therefore if you think adulterers at Communion, blessings of homosexual couples, and the reversal on the death penalty clash with the prior faith, the problem is you.”
In other words, “universal peaceful acceptance” has become the magic spell that makes every contradiction vanish. The living episcopal club cannot be wrong about the man in white, so you must be wrong about what Trent, Pius V, Pius X, and Pius XII meant.
What almost no one bothers to do is ask the obvious question: where did this strong version of UPA come from? Has the Church always taught that “whoever the whole hierarchy currently recognizes must infallibly be pope”? Or is that a late, over-extended attempt to solve a different problem, now being weaponized to prop up a collapsing post-conciliar project?
I want to tell a story almost completely missing from the current debate. It begins long before Leo XIV, long before Vatican II, with theologians who were trying to defend the papacy from Protestants and Gallicans, not from trads on Twitter.
The older instinct: protect the faith, not the sociology
Decades before Vatican I, Catholic theologians were already wrestling with a question that sounds very modern: what if a man who is regarded as pope turns out not to be? What if there is a defect in his election, or he loses the faith? What happens to the Church’s indefectibility?
An 1868 article in The Dublin Review gives us a window into that world. Writing as a convinced ultramontane in the run-up to Vatican I, Dr. William George Ward surveys earlier theologians like Turrecremata and Suarez and frankly admits a possibility that today’s UPA apologists treat as blasphemy: a “seeming pope” who is universally regarded as pope, but in reality is not.
I first introduced Ward’s 1868 Dublin Review article into the online debate in a 2016 column for The Remnant (surreptitiously deleted by the Editor, but preserved in the web archive here). What follows is, in a sense, the continuation of that conversation; only this time without an editorial muzzle.
Ward acknowledges that some medievals believed a pope could, by falling into heresy, cease to be really pope while still being treated as pope by the Church. Faced with that hypothesis, he doesn’t panic and scream “schism.” He asks the right question: how does Christ protect His Church in such a scenario?
His answer is subtle and sane. He argues that once a man, already recognized as pope by the universal Church, truly puts forth a solemn, ex cathedra definition, divine Providence will not permit that man to be an impostor.
If the Church as a whole adheres to a dogma defined from the Chair of Peter, that very act is a dogmatic fact: God guarantees both the truth of the dogma and the reality of the pope.
Notice what Ward is not saying.
He is not saying that the bare sociological fact of “everyone externally treats him as pope” is itself a revealed dogma. He is not treating “universal acceptance” as an automatic sacrament that retroactively cures any defect whatsoever.
He is tying the divine protection to doctrine. The catastrophe he wants to exclude is not “the bishops were fooled for a time,” but “the Church is bound to heresy as Catholic dogma.” A “seeming pope” may sit on the throne; what God will not permit is that such a man, in that state, successfully bind the Church to false doctrine in the very act by which she is meant to be preserved.
That is a far cry from today’s mantra: “once the bishops accept him, the discussion is over.”
Vatican I: the dogma is infallibility, not UPA
Two years after Ward’s article, Vatican I defined papal primacy and infallibility. Pastor Aeternus solemnly laid down that when the Roman pontiff, speaking ex cathedra, defines a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church, he enjoys that infallibility with which Christ willed His Church to be endowed.
Notice again what the council does not do. It does not define any particular theory about how we recognize that a man is pope in the first place. It does not mention “universal peaceful acceptance” by name. It does not say: “Whenever all the bishops with jurisdiction externally adhere to a claimant, this adherence is itself an object of divine and Catholic faith.”
The dogma is about what happens when Peter’s successor teaches under certain conditions. It is not about turning every sociological fact into a revealed truth. The council presupposes that the man on the Chair is truly pope. It does not canonize a single theological mechanism for certifying that fact in every possible case.
The post-Vatican I tightening: from prudence to absolutism
After 1870, though, the tone changes. Catholic theologians now find themselves arguing not only with Protestants and Gallicans, but with Old Catholics who reject Vatican I by attacking Pius IX himself. “Maybe he wasn’t a true pope. Maybe the council was invalid. Maybe the whole thing was a massive fraud.”
You can see the temptation. If you allow that the identity of the pope can be seriously doubted, the enemy has an easy way to undermine any uncomfortable council or definition: “Perhaps that man was never pope.” In the face of that threat, some theologians move from Ward’s modest position to something far more sweeping.
Cardinal Billot is the poster child for this trend. Writing in the early twentieth century, in his De Ecclesia Christi, he takes the older intuition, that the Church cannot be left indefinitely subject to a false rule of faith, and expresses it in maximal form. The peaceful and universal adherence of the Church to a determined pontiff, he says, is in itself an infallible sign of his legitimacy and of all the conditions requisite for legitimacy. God may allow long vacancies, he argues, and even doubts about particular elections; what He cannot permit is that the whole Church accept as pontiff one who is not truly and legitimately so.
Taken in context, Billot is trying to secure Catholic confidence against an Old Catholic style attack: “perhaps Pius IX was false, therefore Vatican I falls.” But look at how far the tone has shifted from Ward.
For Ward, universal recognition plus the act of solemnly teaching Catholic truth is where Providence shows its hand. For Billot, the mere sociological fact of peaceful universal adherence is declared an “infallible sign” of legitimacy and of every hidden condition. The focus has moved from dogma to sociology, from the content of teaching to the external posture of the hierarchy.
Even then, Billot is still writing in a world where the papacy, though often weak and compromising, is not openly blessing adulterous unions or announcing that the Church was wrong on the death penalty for two millennia. He is not imagining an episcopate formed in the spirit of Vatican II, shot through with religious liberty and ecumenism and the cult of conscience.
His confidence is historical as much as theological: despite Honorius and Liberius, God has in practice never allowed a manifest heretic to sit on the Chair, never allowed a clearly invalid conclave to stand. That historical optimism makes it easier to say, “He will never permit it.”
The internet apologists take it off the cliff
Fast-forward a century.
We now live after the council, after the Novus Ordo, after Assisi, after Amoris, after Fiducia Supplicans, after a catechism revision that tells us capital punishment is “inadmissible” as if the Fathers, Doctors, and popes who allowed it simply didn’t understand the dignity of the human person.
Into this mess comes a generation of online apologists and trad-adjacent clerics who have discovered Billot. They rip his most aggressive paragraph out of context and turn it into a cudgel:
All the bishops with jurisdiction accepted Paul VI in 1963. All the bishops accepted the council. All the bishops accept Francis and Leo XIV. Therefore, by the “infallible sign” of universal peaceful acceptance, it is absolutely certain they are true popes.
Therefore anything that looks like rupture, whether Communion for those living in adultery, blessings of homosexual couples, or condemnation of the death penalty, must be reconcilable with tradition. If you can’t see how, that is your problem. You are flirting with schism.
In other words, a late, maximalist reading of UPA has been elevated into a pseudo-dogma that sits above the actual content of the faith. It no longer serves the dogma of indefectibility; it is used to smother any practical recognition that indefectibility is being violated.
The difference between defending the faith and defending the regime
At this point the contrast becomes painfully clear.
Ward and the older ultramontanes were defending the faith. They were worried that a “seeming pope” might bind the Church to heresy and thus destroy her. Their solution was to stress that God’s protection operates at the level of doctrine: a man whom the Church universally receives as pope and who truly defines Catholic dogma can be trusted as both true pope and true teacher.
The post-Vatican I overcorrection, and especially the popular UPA apologetics today, are defending something else entirely: the regime. Their greatest horror is no longer “the Church might be bound to heresy,” but “someone might doubt that this particular innovator is truly pope.”
That is why they are willing to invert the order of reasoning. Instead of saying “we know he is pope because he teaches the faith,” they effectively say, “whatever he teaches must be Catholic because we know he is pope.” Universal acceptance has become a trump card to force the acceptance of innovations that, on their face, contradict prior magisterium.'
If you really follow their logic, it is absurd. A Catholic is told he must believe that Communion for those living in adultery is compatible with Trent’s teaching on mortal sin, that blessings for same-sex couples are compatible with two millennia of condemnation of sodomy, that a categorical rejection of the death penalty is compatible with centuries of papal and conciliar approval, because Billot once wrote that universal adherence is an “infallible sign” of legitimacy.
A late neo-ultramontane opinion about sociology is being used to bulldoze the actual, concrete content of faith and morals.
What we should retain – and what we should throw away
You do not need to deny the Church’s indefectibility to reject this hypertrophied version of UPA.
The Church cannot defect in the faith or make heresy the law of belief; Christ’s teaching authority remains in her even when its ordinary exercise is impeded. That much is Catholic doctrine.
It also makes sense, as a matter of prudence, to presume that a man long received by the Church and acting in substantial continuity with his predecessors is legitimately pope. It even makes sense to say that when such a man truly defines Catholic truth, that act is a dogmatic fact about both the doctrine and his authority.
What you do not have to accept, and what no council has ever defined, is the idea that the mere fact of “universal peaceful acceptance” by a traumatized, post-conciliar hierarchy is a blank check that makes Leo XIV untouchable, whatever he says or does. You are not bound to treat every white cassock that wins episcopal applause as an infallible sacrament of legitimacy.
There is a reason Ward’s Dublin Review essay could openly talk about a “seeming pope” and still count as loyal ultramontane theology. There is a reason Vatican I defined papal infallibility without ever mentioning UPA. There is a reason the older instinct located God’s protection at the level of doctrine rather than in sociological head-counts.
The tragic irony is that the very theologians who overcorrected after Vatican I did so out of a desire to guard Catholics against Protestant and Gallican attacks on the papacy. A century later, their tightened formulas are being used to bully Catholics into accepting what their eyes and catechisms tell them is a betrayal of the faith.
That is what has to be exposed. Not the dogma of papal infallibility. Not the indefectibility of the Church. The real target is the bloated, late-stage version of “universal peaceful acceptance” that has quietly replaced the faith itself with a vague confidence that whatever the current regime approves must somehow be Catholic.
Once you see how and why that overcorrection arose, it stops looking like a sacred tradition and starts looking like what it is: a well-intentioned but disastrous attempt to guarantee more than Christ ever promised.
And the moment you stop letting that opinion boss around your conscience, you are free to see what Ward and the medievals could still see clearly: the Church’s true safety lies in the content of the faith, not in the applause of bishops for whoever happens to be on the balcony.
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